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  Could the Governing Body be done away with?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  i posted this idea on another thread but perhaps it is worth its own discussion.. could the gb be done away with?

  seriously.. they came to be, out of a troubled time.

  there was much opposition as we know to the whole gb idea at the time.

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  Ding is right. If they were arrested for example in the Unthank case thay will cry persecution and point to the similarities in 1918 with Rutherford and the gang.

  The only way you could cause a schism is if the members of the writing committee and legal teams decided that they don't need the Governing Body anymore. In truth they probably don't. The GB is nothing more than old figureheads anyway. Legal could concievably get together with the writing dept. and decide that the blood doctrine needs to be "adjusted", that shunning is unscriptural, and adjust the policies regarding child molesters. They could in one fell swoop, elimnate many of the legal liabilities while at the same time using the Governing Body as scapegoats. Presto chango a new friendlier version of JW's.

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  Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  this is truly terrible.

  i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.

  " in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.

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  stuckinamovement

  I recently had a family member of my wife's pass away. We went to the Memorial and the Hall was packed out. This person was in their 80's had a mess of kids and grandkids and was truly loved by many. They had an amazing life and touched the hearts of pretty much anyone they met. The memorial talk was given by an elder who's name has shown up on this board as being a "heavy". It was nothing but a history lesson of the kingdom growth in that geographical area and a recruitment pitch. Kids were not mentioned or the qualities of this amazing person.

  It was really just an excuse to brag about the organization to 300 something people. It showed me that once you become a Witness you sign your life over to a faceless organization that will forever more exploit your time, energy, money, reputation, and even death. How is it possible that an organization built on a lie can minimize your life, even at the very celebration of your life?

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  Uber Dub wants to have dinner....

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  ok. the good news is that my wife has eased up on the whole "talking it out with the elders" thing.

  she now insists that she is doing her"own independent research with unbiased materials" on some subjects.

  unbiased?

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  stuckinamovement

  Go and tell him the truth about the truth. Guaranteed you won't get anymore calls or invites. Remember, it takes two witnesses for judicial action.

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  The Impact of Leaving

  by leavingwt in

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  i would like to share the information below with newer members and lurkers.

  we're not insensitive to what you're now going through.

  many of us have been in your position.

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  Great List. I am definitely printing it out.

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  DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THIS?

  by lola-rabbit in

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  2. medical

  dose anyone remember this issue?

  i remember i was 18 when i read this, being a youth myself i put myself in their shoes and i was so sad and angry.

  their short lives were stolen.

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  stuckinamovement

  What the craziest thing is: I would bet some of those kids died refusing blood and blood fractions 6 years before the new fractions doctrine was adopted that would have saved their lives. too bad they didn't get sick in 2000.

  So tell me who is responsible for their deaths, Jehovah, the Governing Body, or their parents for following the commands of men. Man this makes me so angry. These Jackasses have the nerve to claim to speak for god and mandate that their followers obey at the risk of social execution or even physical death, and then reserve the right to do an about face change position, and still claim that god is directing them.

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  Thoughts on the current Governing Body

  by JRK in

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  here is a list of the current governing body members:.

  gerrit losch: born 1942, appointed july 1, 1994 .

  guy h. pierce: born 1935, appointed oct. 1, 1999 .

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  Is it just me, but do some of these clowns have lazy eyes? Loesch, and Morris for sure.
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  Victoria, Australia: Report on Oct. 11th hearing involving Steven Unthank

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  victoria, australia: report on oct. 11th hearing involving steven unthank.

  (this report is from an anonymous xjw who attended the hearing.

  i had no plans to turn up to the court hearing as an observer, as in my experience, it can take several hearings and a number of months before any court case gets rolling.

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  There has got to be a pending newspaper article on this? I am almost drooling on my keyboard at this news. Yup there is drool on my space bar.

  This is a really big deal. Unthank defends the FDS and the Lawyers claim it does not exist but is rather a "theological arrangement". It's like saying that the college of the cardinals doesn't exist in real life it is just a "religous concept".

  The society is quickly going to come up with new light on Matt. 24:45. If they can't defend their core foundational doctrine in a court of law, it shows that they know it is all a bunch of crap.

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  So-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by wannabefree in

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  2. beliefs

  with all of the legal mumbo jumbo and technicalties that the organization uses (recently brought to light in the australian case), i couldn't help but wonder what power the "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses" really has or even means from a technical standpoint, since the organization is so technical.

  we know what it means when the announcement is made, but in reality, so-and-so never really belonged to any of the groups in the first place.

  the law says that association or membership is voluntary, therefore the organization has the right to expel and shun someone for not following the guidelines expected of members.. what are the rank and file members of?.

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  Leolaia, You are hands down the smartest person on this board. I always appreciate your posts.

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  NEW Tri-Fold AJWRB.ORG Blood Brochure - print some out!

  by Dogpatch in

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  2. friends

  .style1 { border-style: solid; border-width: 2px; } .style2 { color: #ff0000; } tri-fold ajwrb.org blood brochure.

  to use, print and distribute at no charge.

  (print quality is far better (600dpi) than you see on this screen or in the thumbnail.

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  stuckinamovement

  I love this. False doctrine crumbles under the weight of logic and muted sarcasm.

  Randy, Have you considered sending out a press release? Maybe even formally partnering with the Red Cross or other blood bank organizations to promote the concept?

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  Victoria, Australia: October 11th hearing. All five cases made it through the court...just!

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  this is a preliminary summary only.

  i hope to obtain more details later.. .

  all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.

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  stuckinamovement

  There has got to be a way of getting a transcript of this hearing?

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