Wow! This really skews the meaning of those scriptures. If you read them with hypocrite in mind, it makes you think of the fakes who are within the organization not the so-called apostates who would be out of the organization. By using the word apostate incorrectly in all of these instances, it deflects attention away from corruption within the organization, instead of to those who appear to be practicers of good, but are instead hypocrites.
joenobody
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Apostasy Or Hypocrisy? WT Loads the Language!
by Englishman inapostasy: noun.renunciation of one's religious faith or ones principles or party etc.. hypocrisy:noun.simulation of virtue or goodness, insincerity.. the above is taken from the oxford dictionary.
clearly, apostasy is an act of openly giving up a belief, whilst hypocrisy is an act of pretending to be good and sincere.
quite a difference!.
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JW article in major Canadian newspaper today...
by Pathofthorns ini almost didn't have time to read the morning's paper, but a banner at the top of the front page entitled "cheerleading for jehovah" got my attention.
interesting comments in the toronto star can be read here.
the article has obvious input from the society and seems to be a pr type move in light of recent bad canadian press (calgary blood case) and likely future canadian programs exposing jws and child abuse.. interesting comments:.
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joenobody
What a skewed article... Tell me that a young pioneer sister would not normally be chastised for going out with a "worldly woman" esp. to a worldly concert!
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Jesus knows time of end?
by Golden Girl inok...i admit...i forgot a lot!
been out for a least 25 years!.
but when visiting my jw mother in law last weekend..she kept emphasizing that jesus now knows when armageddon is going to start!.
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joenobody
"It seems reasonable" therefore it is so?
Reasonable based on what?!??!
Here's a statement from me: "It seems reasonable that JWs are working for a very rich corporation under the guise of religion".
Edited by - joenobody on 29 July 2002 16:6:55
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WHAT'S THE WORSE THING YOU DID AT THE MEETING?
by Mary ini would have to say the worst (aka: funniest) thing i ever did at a meeting was when i sat with the circuit overseer and his wife (many moons ago......) .
anyway, he was really prim and proper and she was of course, a very submissive wife who barely spoke without her husbands permission.
anyway, he goes to the platform and starts off by asking th audience: who was ahab?
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joenobody
A couple come to mind:
1) A young guy about 24, pioneer, pretty earnest and well respected, but a little short upstairs at times was giving a talk from the "Creation" book or something. He was marvelling about a creature he kept referring to as an "oran"-"goootin" and what an amazing animal. I laughed my ass off and when he came to the back (was working the sound) I informed him it was pronounced "orangutan" and he clued in to what the heck the animal actually was! We rode on him pretty hard for that one.
2) An MS had asked me to do a demonstration one night. We got to the meeting late, he kind looked at me and smiled and wagged his finger at me jokingly. I had totally forgotten about the part, until the service meeting began. Then I suddenly realized what he had been referring to when I read over the part. I decided to jet out to the can... I could hear him giving his talk and he called upon me to give the demo. He waited a minute and some of the brothers started looking for me. One young guy opened the bathroom door, saw my feet under the stall and burst out laughing "he's in here!". He kept busting a gut as I was dying off embarassment. The guy giving the talk was not very quick on his feet and he said we'll just wait for him for a minute! The guy who found me said, "uh I think he's not coming any time soon". When I returned to my seat after his part was over, people were smiling and laughing big time.
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Dfd movie from Jw
by happy man inhttp://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131isdn.htm
comments on this please?.
as ongoing jw widh expiriens from this dfd thing , one of my child was dfd for minor thing,.
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joenobody
With the comments added in there with the psycologist, they make it seem like it's an absolutely last resort. There is no mention about those that have been DFed that want to remove themselves from the org but still have contact with individuals or family.
Very sad little world.
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joenobody
YouKnow,
That is by far the most intelligent and insightful thing you have written. I applaud you for having a mind of your own. While we may not always agree on doctrine, I appreciate your very human thoughts that these things will not go unpunished.
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How Will YOU Celebrate???
by Mister Biggs infrom 'jehovahs witnesses on the web' ( http://groups.msn.com/jehovahswitnessesontheweb/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&id_message=9100&lastmodified=4675380584721829424 ).
"the israelites celebrated after thier deliverance from egypt.
how will you celebrate our deliverance from this wicked world?.
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joenobody
Good God!
Can you imagine the scene after Armageddon? If it falls on Friday, you can be damn sure the meetings will be on for Sunday. No matter! I am sure all of the same talk outlines about organizational rules and principles will apply.
The elders will assemble and begin receiving instruction from the Governing Body. The same organizational methods that were in place for the preaching will now be used for the cleanup work. Everyone will either meet at the bookstudy group or at the Hall for cleanup service just in the same manner they would for field service, or better still pre-assembly cleanup. This will consist of the pioneers getting the glamourous cleanup jobs like restoring trees and flowers, the elders moving from group to group "supervising" the efforts, and the general peons left to haul rubble and poke at the dead bodies with sticks.
A great identification work will likely go on. Find a body? Pick through the pockets and get the ID. Bring it to be added to the master list. Find any jewellery and bring it to the proper authorities to be smelted for building those big new assembly halls we need for all the resurrected. Don't dare keep any - but I'm sure there'll be a few incidents like those that stole the carpets from one of Israel's war spoils.
After a few weeks, the elders will need to focus more of their efforts on stirring up those who have started to lapse in the cleaning work.
"Brother Selfish! Why are you working on building your house? There's forever for that! Put it off and help in the cleanup and continuing building work! You should be thankful just to be here."
Sisters - please keep in mind while you are cleaning up that you would want to exercise modesty when dressing. Skirt hems should adhere to the local conscience. Besides, trying to look nice when hauling around all those dead carcasses is pretty pointless.
Remember all of those pictures of paradise with the bounteous meals and playing with the animals? Well hold your horses brothers! We've received "new light"! These thngs actually happen at the end of the 1000 years... Seven years to clean the earth? Well we can't take that literally it seems. We've now seen prophecies in the Bible that point to a time in the future when the cleaning will end and the earth will be restored: details to follow! For now, show what kind of Christian you are and get moving in the cleaning work.
Don't forget to submit your service reports every month! See how easily the old forms translate to the new ones? You've still got the Hours cleaned (infirm brothers and sisters not yet fully healed may report in 15 minute increments). Instead of magazines, please mark "Jewellery found", for Studies conducted mark "Apostates Identified" and for Return Visits mark "Bodies Hauled for incineration". Please note that you may count Apostates identified, but not the time for hauling off their bodies (this means you YouKnow).
Enjoy Paradise!
Forever!
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Rules For Dating My Daughter
by DakotaRed in"ten simple rules for dating my daughter".
some thoughtful information for those who are daughters, were daughters, have daughters, intend to have daughters, or intend to date a daughter.. rule one: if you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.. rule two: you do not touch my daughter in front of me.
you may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck.
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joenobody
A classic!
I loved especially the one about a "barrier". Can't wait til m daughter is old enough to date!
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Mormonism - a few points
by Amazing inmormonism is an enigma.
they extol higher education, then turn right around and insult education by their farms archeology site sponsored by byu.
just how this religion ever got by as far as they did is beyond me.
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joenobody
I'd like to challenge your statements Susan - saying the BOM is not "easily unravelled" as Amazing says. Have you looked into the history behind the BOM? Do you know about it's connections to transcribed mistakes from early KJV versions of the Bible? Ask a Mormon just which of the many versions of Doctrines and Covenants is the correct one. Also, get back to me on the Book of Abraham... err Egyptian Book of the Dead! Finally, just where are those gold plates? Seems like an awful thing to have lost. Please tell me about the extent of your research.
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Watchtower Moves In For Kill On silentlambs
by silentlambs indraffenville
congregation
of jehovah's witnesses
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joenobody
I am getting sick over this. It is a ridiculous stipulation not to have a recording device. Without such, there is no transcript of the events that take place behind closed doors.
Please make sure you record this to cover yourself. And absolutely figure out if there are any lawyers present at the start of the hearing.