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Godfather Rutherford (Photoshop-fun)

by Rado Vleugel in

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not marlon brando, but rutherford is the original godfather!.

rado vleugel.

http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/

joenobody

The Austin Powers one takes the cake... the movie was a bit wishy-washy and inconsistent, but "Hard Knock Life" had me rolling on the floor!

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Ministry School or Lets play pretend

by Beans in

looking back at the kingdom ministry school it really seemed like a childish game of lets play pretent.

somebody gives you an outline and sisters and brothers would act it out, like any of this stuff really ever happened.

you never saw anybody act out the door slam or any vulgar comments, now that would have made it interesting eh!

Actually, when I was asked to do demonstrations, I often had the householder politely refuse at the end. It caught people off guard sometimes, but was alot more realistic as far the kind of results one could expect.

By having fairy tale demos where the householder accepts all the time, it teaches publishers that when they don't get success, it must've been something they did wrong - that they needed to become more effective.

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Theocratic Ministry School 2003

by LoyalLeon in

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some excerpts from the october 2002 our kingdom ministry insert regarding the new schedule for the tms:.

introductory remarks.

5min study point several paragraphs of one of the 53 studies in the new benefit from tms education (to be handled by the school overseer, his helper or perhaps another qualified elder).

joenobody

Wow... I too am very surprised that reading of the WT is put on par with reading the Bible. Talk about confusing people.

They really seem to be tightening up on the content of the talks. There is so little room now for research and discussion on topics - everything is so canned. Talk about boring.

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Caption Competition!

by Englishman in

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insert caption here:................................................................................................................. englishman.

joenobody

"I always knew that Fred Hall spewed alot of garbage... but this is ridiculous!"

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Review of "Avoid the Pursuit of 'Valueless...

by ozziepost in

thanks to dmouse for providing the scan of the september km article: .

let's look at each paragraph.

paragraph #1: somehow the topic of e-mails is linked to "valueless things" and "unrestricted use" (whatever that is).

joenobody

Ozzie, did you not know that Jesus said, "you received freely, therefore give freely, unless of course we copyrighted it"?

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Defensivness

by restorebeauty in

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hey everyone,.

i have never been a jehovah's witness, but i've dated someone who is and i have a few clients who are.. my comment and question is this, i've noticed that witnesses who aren't even active get very defensive when asked a question or a comment is made about the religion.. did any of you find yourself before you left getting this way when people asked you about the religion.. restorebeauty.

joenobody

The comment about the ones who are wavering being the most defensive is spot on. I recently spoke with a girl who didn't know I was an ex. It came out that her mom was a JW and that she at 22 had left (not baptized) because she had no friends etc.

I made a comment to get things going about how rich the Society was. She was stunned and said "oh no... it's not to make money or anything like that." I ended up letting a few stats out and she started to deny them, but you could tell she didn't know enough to either defend her wavering faith or to be knowledgable enough to know the facts. I let it slip about Dateline etc and she was quite stunned. I made comments about them being nice people, but "too bad they don't know the facts about their history", to which she stammered to defend, but realized she knew nothing of it either.

It bothered me that she defended them so much, but she was ostracized for being fat and unpopular in her words... she craved acceptance, but even they wouldn't take her.

It made me realize that even for me 5 or 6 years ago after being DFed, I would still defend JWs to an extent as far as "not being a cult" and being misrepresented in the media etc. It took time for that to fade and to be more balanced about it. I will still defend them when people have idiotic statements to make, but will equally expose the real problems.

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Should JWs use Zeros?/Garden of Eden

by badboy in

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i understand they are of bablyonish origin!.

same article about iraq said that legend says that al qrnah is site of garden of eden!

joenobody

JWs already have an aversion to zeroes. Imagine the reaction if you submitted a service report like this:

Hours: 0

Magazines: 0

RVs: 0

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JWZone Thread on Bill Bowen - UPDATED!

by SYN in

yes i know you're all getting p*d off with my jwzone threads, but i couldn't let this one go by!!!!!!

so, i'm just going to embed the thread here and let you guys comment...hehe...some jwzoners are going to get their heads bitten off in this thread!

edited by - syn on 8 august 2002 13:43:36.

joenobody

What gets me in their comments is that they are so well trained in Thoecratic New Language. Brothers are referred to as "loyal", apostate signs are "deceptive". So many adjectives are tossed about to qualify everything. The devotion to the "earthly organization" is absolutely astounding. It's a well packaged product that Society has sold people - you are special, you are part of a special organization on earth, it is God's visible organization, but because men are involved, there will be some imperfection. It's not until one is able to do an honest examination without the influence of the organization that you can see there is no basis for the claim of being approved by God. Nothing.

I can sympathize with them to a limited extent. But statements to the effect that these "scandals" will make honest-hearted worldly people look into things and that it will actually add to the ranks of the brothers and sisters, are so naive as to cause one to pause and reflect as to how nonsensical such statements are and regret ever following such a course of non-reasoning in the past as a JW.

As a small aside, it really bugs the hell out of me that they use Star Trek characters as their personas - seems it's ok to "boldy go where no man has gone before" but don't "boldly go out in front of the Organization". Seems to me an honest JW could enjoy the show but wouldn't completely embrace the mythology of other worlds that flies in the face of Earth having been a special creation.

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