im noticing that alot of witnesses commit suicide.
one sister i knew a few yrs back, in her early 40's, was having marriage problems in the hall for yrs and everyone knew it.
they only told her to rely on jehovah and asked the elders for guidance.
There have been 4 suicides that I know of in the Pacific NW in the last two years...... disturbing.
Even worse is that the 'elders' will go behind closed doors and pull out their cliches to justify or gloss over the deaths.
Comments like "......poor guy was always depressed"..... or ....." ....they were always crazy"
Its never a big deal. It always comes back to protecting themselves and the 'organization'
I wish people would RUN
any person or situation ?.
Being an elder with a love and passion for people made me leave. I served for 11 years.
Listening to DOs and COs.....and how different they were behind closed doors.....
Elders calling people names and "nut jobs" behind closed doors.
The systematic stripping of a teenagers self esteem in a judicial meeting.
Slander. Tons of it. Daily.
Being an elder....a child of divorce...and now a divorced man myself.....destroyed my view of marriage. I think its a total pile of shit.
on saturday, my ex husband went on the platform at the one day circuit assembly and slandered me in front of 800+ people.. my jw family is even up in arms because he basically lied and ruined any last bits of my reputation that i had left, the worst part is this was elder sanctioned.. i am really exhausted from all the upheaval so i will get right to the point.
the following is what i sent to my mother:.
hi mom.
Slander is a JW's favorite weapon.
Funny thing is.....do you know what separates slander from adultery?
A comma.
Slander was the #1 reason I left. Its allowed and even encouraged.
i quit my bible study a couple days ago after taking a month or two to work up the guts.
have been getting harassing emails/phone calls blah blah blah.
but i got an email today telling me that an unbelieving spouse can be "sanctified" by his believing mate.
Their entire platform is built on guilt and fear......something that Jesus said would NOT ......NOT be present in his message. Read 1 John.
Delete it. Do not try to reason with them.
i have a few questions regarding moving and changing congs.
i would love to hear from former elders.. .
my wife and i will be moving soon, and as i described in an earlier post we will be using the move as an opportunity to fade.
Way too much put into this.
The only power they have is the power YOU give them.
Walk away. Don't answer your phone. Change your number. Delete them off Facebook.
Disappear.
The brutal truth is that they don't care enough to bother with trying to find you. Yet another way they disgrace Christ.
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Thank you for making my blood boil this morning.
Missing out on college continues to be at the source of my anger.
I know I can fix it.....it just angers me at 43.
i have a few questions regarding moving and changing congs.
i would love to hear from former elders.. .
my wife and i will be moving soon, and as i described in an earlier post we will be using the move as an opportunity to fade.
I too served as a Secretary for a time....but the WT Conductor for much longer.
Its NOT difficult to fade.
Hell......look up an address for a KH in Chicago and have your cards sent there. The current rules are that they aren't supposed to wait; just send them. They will send the cards to the address......you will never show......they will never follow up with the old congregation (even if they did, the elders won't know what to say).........and (((POOOOOOOFFFF))))) you're gone.
FYI.....I did this myself. Left the congregation, went to one across town, stopped going, the secretary called and I told him I'm attending another congregation, he sent my cards to that KH and I've NEVER attended. They asked my mother about me once and she said "leave him alone".......and (((POOOOOOFFFFFFFF)))) ..........I was gone.
I will admit that they are a bit 'afraid' of me....... I was a "big shot elder" (I know...RIDICULOUS)....so I 'know' a lot of their dirty laundry. They just leave me alone.
i'm in a tough position.
i gave my last talk as an ms a couple of weeks ago, and i haven't been out in field service in well over a month.
i "came out" to the closest people in my life...namely my gf and mother...i was also recently asked to step down from being a servant - largely because my heart was no longer in it and i couldn't stomach going from door to door peddling magazines and other literature full of lies and logical fallacies.
What Serenity said is SPOT ON.
As a former elder, I can tell you, most of them are painfully lazy and don't WANT to find people.
Go dark. Disappear. Don't rip them....just walk away.....when you see someone, just tell them you've been depressed and have been thinking about moving.
POOF............. you're done.
well, i walked in and got the love-bombing before i even made it past the foyer.
everyone's missed me, everyone's thrilled that i came, blah, blah, blah.
to be fair though, there were a few there that i do miss so it was nice to see them.
LOL.....I went with my mother, FOR my mother last night.
The 'speaker' said there were 11,000 last year.
I started laughing, people looked at me. Ummmmm, there were 8,000 when I gave the talk a few years ago.
Apparently, they are coming back from heaven LOL LOL
But the funniest comment of the night was when the 'speaker' read the daily text ......where it stated that the evil does hanging next to Jesus KNEW about a paradise earth..... that's right KNEW about the paradise earth.
WTF??? He had just got done asking Jesus if he was in fact King of the Jews.....how did he know about a paradise earth? Didn't the JW's start preaching that hope around 1935???
Totally insane. Not one person even flinched.
maybe i just don't pay enough attention at meetings, which is a serious possibility.
of the supposed 144,000 thousand jw's that are supposed to go to heaven, how many have there been thus far?
what happens if their number surpasses that 144,000?.
LOL.....I went with my mother, FOR my mother last night.
The 'speaker' said there were 11,000 last year.
I started laughing, people looked at me. Ummmmm, there were 8,000 when I gave the talk a few years ago.
Apparently, they are coming back from heaven LOL LOL
But the funniest comment of the night was when the 'speaker' read the daily text ......where it stated that the evil does hanging next to Jesus KNEW about a paradise earth..... that's right KNEW about the paradise earth.
WTF??? He had just got done asking Jesus if he was in fact King of the Jews.....how did he know about a paradise earth? Didn't the JW's start preaching that hope around 1935???
Totally insane. Not one person even flinched.
