As a former elder of many years...........the only Holy Spirit available is through His Word the Bible. ==1 Tim. 3:15, 16
Once you have served and heard/watched what some of these guys do...... you're deeply disturbed.
i believe one of the harder pills for an unbeliever to swallow would be the idea of being in submission to the body of elders.
we're just not used to the concept of a clergyman having authority over us in matters that are not spiritual and, even then, i know for a fact that many a catholic will not do was the priest wants without any fear of being excommunicated.
i suppose this is something you just have to accept if you're a jw.
As a former elder of many years...........the only Holy Spirit available is through His Word the Bible. ==1 Tim. 3:15, 16
Once you have served and heard/watched what some of these guys do...... you're deeply disturbed.
i have noticed a lot of newbies lately.
(i also noticed that after being absent for a year happy1975 is making a return visit.).
so, if you are a brand spanking newbie, post here and tell us a little about your interests, your state, your new direction in life, your favorite things, whatever you want to say---this is your thread.. .
Great thread.
I'm a newbie. Admittedly, still shy about posting too much about myself. I'm working up to it.......
Long time elder. I've had every privilege a man can have in the organization.....from Memorials, to speaking at conventions....weddings, chaired more JC's than I can count, etc. etc.
I couldn't take the gross lack of love anymore. And its not just 'a little lack'.....its a total lack. Between no love for 'widows and orphans', to the mass corruption among elders, to the living breathing Pharisaical spirit.........I just walked away. I'm in total fade for about a year now.....people still think I'm attending (just not as an elder) across town. I've walked away. I warned my family and that was it............FFFFAAAAAAAADDDDDDE
Crisis of Conscience turned my heart upside down. Malawi is so disturbing to me.....I can't put words to it. I was just a little guy praying and praying for those people.....they were always on my mind......now I know what really happened and it makes me physically ill.
We ignore and ignore the very premise of Christianity: LOVE. JW's judge people and are by far and away the worst gossips/slanderers I've ever encountered.
I'm still very, very angry. Angry that I was given the same love that I extended to so many. Angry that as a guy in his 40's I have no college education and I live check to check....and in FEAR of losing my job.
Now I'm just getting pissed.......
i left the "truth" in 2002 after being in it for more than 30 years.
i am so glad i wasn't raised in the "truth".
my very zealous wife who was raised in the "truth" found a worldly boyfriend and swore nothing ever happened.
HI Darth,
Great to meet you. I understand EXACTLY what you are going through. I learned that hard way that my ex-wife was always right......"its all a big game".....
I too have lost every friend I've ever known.....I'm still in the 'lost' stage; trying to figure out what's next......so you're not alone. I'm always glad to hear of a happy ending.....I'm sure glad you met a nice girl. The sisters I dated post divorce were awful.
how long do you think it will take before the wts is exposed for what it really is?.
i sort of thought the whole 1914 thing would blow the lid off this thing.
it's obvious they wormed their way out of another one.. do you think there will ever be a grand climax and jws will just start leaving in record numbers?
I agree with most of the posters above.
I too wanted to see this mass unveiling.....but I don't think it will happen. People are conditioned to 'believe'......and they have almost been setting the stage for some of this stuff....
I do think a major change in the blood policy.....like it becoming "a conscience matter" would shake things up. Imagine the people who have lost loved ones????? I think the same thing about admittance that DFing is barbaric and UnChristian.......but then again, think of all the people that have lost people.....the suicides, etc.
Somehow, I think it will just keep going.
i've been lurking for quite a while but i finally gave in to my "apostate" heart and joined!
i'm so excited!.
Welcome.....new myself
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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.
MadJW,
Unfortunately, your replies above show what is mostly wrong with JW's: you don't emulate Jesus in how you treat others.
Your sarcastic, erroneous tone betrays you......
Very sad....but very evident that JW's are not living proof of John 13:34, 35, nor do they treat people the way Jesus does (1 Pet. 2:21, 23)
glutton...fails to show love for jehovah.
is food a big thing in his life?
if in the presence of others, does he selfishly ignore their needs and take more than his fair share?
I got another one for you RR:
Its okay to beat your wife.........afterall, when you get married you are 'one'.......and Paul said to pummel your body and lead it as a slave......therefore, its totally okay to abuse your wife.
LOL
if you had to sum up your current thoughts on the wts/jw experience what word/phrase would you use?.
anger?.
confusion?.
As of right now: all of the above
I think of all the time I spent dedicating myself to an organization and people that flat out could care less.....
I think about not going to college and having to struggle to make a living now....
I think about the awful sisters I've dated.....
Enh...........I think I'm angry today........
seems that our 1st non attendance at the memorial has put us on the "1 sheep out of 100 radar".
we have been inundated with calls (we usually do a good job of screening) and the drop by in service wed, thurs and yesterday of some of the die/blowhards.
i fully expect another in about an hour.
Loz,
Very wise advice.
Don't argue....and DON'T SHARE if you're trying to fade away.
Stick to your guns....smile...avoid calls, change your voicemail, delete emails, don't answer Facebook.
FADE..............
been wondering if the jw's are still told to not see them.
seems like i haven't seen or heard anything like that in a few years.. .
Blondie is absolutely correct.
I was at the meeting....I even had the chance to serve closely with Guy Pierce, who went after those that watched R rated movies.
If you watch an R Rated movie, you're getting removed.
Meanwhile, in Canada......they use their conscience.