warm heartiest cristian phillicitations.
enjoy your day bud.
regards
josephus
....yep im still in the borg but im celebrating anyway!
my family are just normal people(no dubs)they think its great.
just want to thank you all on this board for opening my eyes to the real troof!
warm heartiest cristian phillicitations.
enjoy your day bud.
regards
josephus
pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).
i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.
ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.
pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).
i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.
ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.
pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.
its called disfellowshipped.com.
you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good)
i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site
ive changed my mind.
please give it a look see.
regards
josephus
for weeks now, i've been trying to put together a disassociation letter - incidently, it's you lot that have put me up to this - and it's nearing completion but i'm feeling nervous about sending it.
the fast approaching christmas celebration thingymajig is kinda egging me on as i want to blaze christmas lights everywhere and not feel nervous about the possibility of a visit from the po who drops the mags in to me fortnightly (i'm generally 'not in' ... ahem ...).
i would appreciate your for's and against's - to either convince me to go ahead, or to think again and stay the execution ...
hi please think carefully about this decision.
if you leave quietly, life IS easier.
if you write the letter, who are writing it for ?
i want to get some closure, but that is simply selfish.
by staying i have helped four others know the "truth about the truth".
and of course there is NO SCRIPTURAL REASON TO DO IT !!!!!1
by writing that letter you show them that you are still following thier rules.
anyway thats my two cents.
good luck , whatever you do.
regards
josephus
well, get ready to be shocked at the audacity!.
we have family who came in from costa rica today.
a cousin and his girlfriend.
that is SOOOOOO SREWED UP
if jesus was here today, hed talk to you, and if the society dare to call that religion i hope they get their reward.
you are great, keep it up, maybe one day your sis will learn the "truth about the truth"
regards
josephus
hi all,.
i don't know about the rest of you, but there's something that grates on me like new chalk on a blackboard.. i refer to that expression jws use to describe that threadbare tapestry of conjecture, fill-in-the-blanks theological approach to doctrines the bible leaves hazy and judgmental moralism that comprises the wt belief system-- you know, ``the truth," as in ``he/she left the truth,'' or ``how long have you been in the truth?''.
may i suggest that it be amended to ``the opinion?
cripes
ive been calling it the opinion now for years, even when i was "in"
ask anybody, thats my copywritten phrase.
regards
josephus
i've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.
so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.
joseph f. alward.
hello
i still beleive in god.
what i beleive is a little more fluid nowadays, but i feel more open to other ideas too.
the bible is full of helpfull info, and i think much of it is too good to be just mans words.
despite what kent will say. the bible is not all bad.
look at proverbs, now thats a good selfhelp book.
regards
josephus
i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.
long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.
unclebruce
theres a name i know well.
thank you bud. i predict an ecard in your future.
cheers mate.
neil
ps
hows the weather down there ?
i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.
long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.
I thought that would get your attention.
I dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.
i am out a good while now. long enough to stop getting hellos on the street. and even though i know
what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.
i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide. One night i held a razer to my wrist trying to will
myself to do it.
it was only because of a nice new docter who wouldnt let me leave the surgery and gave me prozac that im here today.
those bastards lied again and again, one accused me of attempting to attack him, because i asked to speak to
him outside.
him and the co wrote letters pretending to be the whole body of elders , trying to get my brother dffd.
at the meeting with them the co said they were rightous men and justified in getting at me.
i can remember him making me shake hands with that asshole still.
he ended up removed himself, so i guess im better off than most here. but now i really want blood.
at a funeral last week the co was still there. he smiled at me and skook my hand, and even though hes about
sevennty i wanted to scream at the bastard.
i want to make them visit me and start it up again. i want to show them i dont give a fuck about them
or thier bullshit organization.
i want my mum to see who ive been dealing with all this time.
i work alone and most of my day is spent thinking about this crap. i want to finish it.
the question is why cant i forget.
any thought on my ramblings would be appreciated
thanks
josephus
ok, so i became a jw when i was in my mid 20's.
i was in my prime.. i was so busy being a witness, taking in the truth, pioneering bla bla bla that i feel like i've missed out on life totally.
now i'm pushing 40 and i'm tired.
one day at a time, thats how i take it.
at least you didnt find out the lie at fifty or sixty.
anyway forty is young.
i climb with a sixty year old.
he outwalks me, and out climbs me too !
have a good day bro
josephus