my wife is really starting to transition out of the wts.
this has been a happy time in both of our lives.. while things have peaceful at home - her somewhat abrupt departure appears to have raised eyebrows with her 2 jw syblings.
so much so that they are starting to plant their own seeds of doubt into her head.
Please, family_man, go invest in Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom by Raymond Franz. It is a start on how to debunk the JW thinking. Let your wife read those books, too. From there you just continue searching and reading what interests you. Ray does a good job of debunking JW doctrine.
Keep your guard up. The JW family members will always be hounding your family. That's how they are programmed.
Joy
allo folks.... .
please tell me if you think a jehovah's witness could read crisis of concience and continue to be a jw after finishing it?
since i have heard vague stories that there are some who have continued to be a jw, please relate the story and how you think this could be.
I agree with simplesally. "by putting their head back in the sand".
I gave CoC to my brother (who was at bethel the same time I was in the 70's), he claimed he read it, but I know he just skimmed it. All he wanted to know was what happened to Ray. That was over 3 years ago. He still goes to meetings (talk about a drone). His wife is more upset about the abuse issue because she used to be Catholic and hates how the WTBTS down grades them while they are allowing sexual preditors in the congregation.
But go figure. As soon as I read CoC, while an active witness, I wanted to "quite touching the unclean thing". But hubby convinced me to try the fade thing so that we could get through to our family before we were kicked out.
Everyone has to do what is best for them and their situation but I still scratch my head over any JW reading CoC and still being loyal to an organization. A publishing organization.
Joy
hello everybody i was just wondering if anybody knows how raymond franz is doing or how he is continuing his life outside of the org.
While I was an active witness when I read CoC while attending the meetings! * yes, no lightening ever came down!* I did have it under a bible cover I bought from Walmart, but I couldn't put the book down. I had for years wanted to read Ray's books but didn't have the courage.
I recommend any JW read it. If the JW's have the truth? then what are they afraid of by reading it?
Then go on to In Search of Christian Freedom. Ray has written in those 2 books his answers to a lot of questions people have for him.
Joy
no surprise, i don't post here much these days.. but today, i have to.. when i first arrived here back in january 2003, i remember looking at this very section of the board.
personal experiences & reunions.. well.....i got the shock...the absolute shock of a lifetime.
some of you, i'm sure, when you remember folks in your jw past, there are those whom you thought you'd never ever hear from.. last night, i get home from work (4:00 a.m.) and i go on-line, open my e-mail, and i see a name i have not seen since my jw days of 1983/84.. how did i feel?
Wonderful news, Ray.
That is what a lot of us here are holding our breaths for. That our old friends will see the light.
Thanks for sharing.
Hugs,
Joy
JW's are true believers.
You might enjoy the book by sociologist Eric Hoffer True Believer
It may explain the why to you.
btw, welcome to the board.
Joy
i was never "in" the wts, but my husband's x-wife and children are jw.
he never was...it's a long story, but between the "religion" and other stuff, she's managed to inflict so much damage and pain on him that at one point he was suicidal...so much for "christian love", ya know?.
looking forward to talking more, if that's ok with everybody!.
Welcome TrailBlazer04
enjoy yourself here.
Joy
the garden of dreams.
this is where i went this afternoon, what a bloomin lovely, lovely, completely beautiful way to while away a few hours.
for all the ladies here, please take your pick of the best of the bunch.
Breathtaking, Mark!
don't cha just luv Jehover's creation?
J
we just got home from visiting friends and family in new york state for 5 days.
we spent a few days in buffalo (dirty city, grungy and depressing) but we did have a great lunch yesterday, of buffalo wings at the original restaurant where they first served them.
and we saw the president's plane arrive this morning about 40 minutes before we boarded our flight.
wow, what excitement!
We've seen AF1 fly by our place, with at least 4 jets escorting it in the air. Big plane.
Glad to hear you made it home ok. What fun you must have had.
Joy
i'm going to let off a little steam about my son, who should be in aa.
but, he says, he's a drunk not an alcoholic because alcoholics go to meetings.
truth is, he drinks so much it scares me.
More hugs here ((((((Gretchen)))))).
Ahhhh, the joys of motherhood.
Joy
our granddaughter and her wife made history today by being among the first 3022 official gay marriages to take place in the good ol' us of a. there are no more marriages currently being issued in oregon, but the ones that have taken placed are legitimate, binding, and recognized by the state of oregon.
in the interim the legislature has to come up with a law to make more of these marriages official.
i sure am proud to live in such a progressive state.
Congrats to your granddaughter & partner (whoohooo "wife"!!) nice to say, huh!
Tolerance, that's what everyone needs to learn. And LOVE.
Thanks for sharing.
Joy
