Joyzabel

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  I'm telling lies from the stage

  by DannyBloem in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently gave a public talk, and i really felt bad about it.. it was the public talk about the great flood of noahs days.

  the is so much evidence that this great deluge never happened, but that is something you can't tell the audience from the stage.

  (i will tell about that evidence if people are interested, but it is a bit off-topic now).

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  Joyzabel

  But what can I do? Refuse the talk, and all meeting parts, refuse the field service :) ?

  yes

  and yes you are right it is not an easy dicision but you are responsible for what comes out of your mouth. And if you promote/parrot the JW thing.....is that how you really want to be?

  It is a very hard decision, that's why some decide to fade, but once I learned the truth about the truth(tm) I never commented again, gave a talk or went in service. It is much easier than you think to fake it and JWs don't notice.

  Now go practice on your excuses for not telling lies anymore.

  btw, welcome to the board. You may find some courage to be yourself from reading the experiences here on this board.
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  blow out at kingdumb hall build today

  by johnny cip in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they are adding a second floor to this hall that they have had for at least 40 years.

  in gunhill rd bronx new york city.

  i started by asking dumb questions .

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  Joyzabel

  Arent you proving WTS right whenever you pull a splinter cell/metal gear? Just a thought...

  right about what, dingdong Dune? That people have the right to express themselves contrary to just parrotting what the WTBTs says? btw, welcome to the board, Dune. Joy
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  Lotus Birth: So you think you've seen everything, eh?

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://onyx-ii.com/birthsong/lotus.html

  lotus birth - a ritual for our times.

  by sarah j. buckley .

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  Joyzabel

  hey LT, nice avitar. I can't believe you are contributing to this thread.

  EvilForce, "Joy....some of those nut jobs are still running around" you don't have to tell me that! That's why I don't go to the ACNM conventions too much.

  Richie Rich, it is not unusual for women to bury their placenta's under a tree after a home delivery. Better than putting the placenta in the garbage and seeing the neighborhood dogs go crazy!

  Joy CNM of the seen too many crazy births and needs to write a book about it class.
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  Lotus Birth: So you think you've seen everything, eh?

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://onyx-ii.com/birthsong/lotus.html

  lotus birth - a ritual for our times.

  by sarah j. buckley .

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  Joyzabel

  ok, among the lay midwives in the 70's & 80's there was a receipe for cooking placenta. Yes, placenta and oinions or mix it with V-8 juice.

  so don't get me started. lol I can out gross anyone.
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  Lotus Birth: So you think you've seen everything, eh?

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://onyx-ii.com/birthsong/lotus.html

  lotus birth - a ritual for our times.

  by sarah j. buckley .

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  Joyzabel

  pssst, Scully

  I've visited "The Farm" back in the 80's, whooooa, what an experience! I remember one experience there that one lady's placenta didn't "deliver" until 8 days post-partum. Yep, she walked around with the umbilical cord dangling between her legs.

  We need to get together sometime and compare birthing stories. lol
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  Christian Longo on 48 Hrs Mystery

  by Sunspot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  (cbs) tuesday, may 31, at 10 p.m. et/pt .

  the pretender .

  a rising star at the new york times, michael finkel had just lost his job after fabricating a story.

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  Joyzabel

  kewl,

  thanks for the info.

  edited to add: ps, this past sunday's paper here in Salem Oregon, they had an article about Finkle doing a book on Christian Longo called "True Story".

  *setting to record tonight's program*
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  Pea up his nose!

  by pennycandy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has this happened to anyone else's kids?

  my 18 month-old is the only one of my three to ever do this.. he actually stuck 3 of them up there, but i squished the first one out then pulled out the 2nd one with tweezers.

  but i can barely see another one way back.

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  They had to operate on him to remove the peanut from his lung. He got over it ok, but it was pretty darn scary, especially with the risk of infection .

  A peanut in a lung is very caustic to the lung.

  When our youngest was 18 months he aspirated a peanut (post choking on it). While he was under anesthesia, they saw the peanut through the scope, but when they went to retreve it, it wasn't there. The doctor assumed it flew out when the scope was removed due to the pressure behind the peanut. Anyway, the sad thing was, he went into a severe asthma attack and had to be on a respirator for 3 days. (He was medically sedated) But it took several years for his lung/lungs to recover. Very scary.

  Anyway, he is now a very healthly, happy 17 year old training to be a fireman. So babies do grow up and life does go one.
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  Is it better to just LEAVE or FIGHT?

  by ljwtiamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although, i have not been victim to the same level of damage from the wts as many of you on this site, i have noticed that it is very difficult to fight such a large entity with deep pockets and passionate (though misled) supporters.. .

  since i am still in the very early stages of leaving/fading, i wonder:.

  i have already spent the vast majority of my life sacrificially serving the interests of this org.

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  Joyzabel

  Nothing is black and white. One or the other.

  There are always many, many options. Learn to be and go with the flow.
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  My brother

  by Chia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just recently talked to my brother.

  he got thrown out of my mom's house before i did, because he was constantly staying out late, going to clubs and coming home drunk, and my mom had enough of it.

  the difference between us is that he still feels the dubs have "the truth.

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  Joyzabel

  Ask him what appeals to him with the JWs! Don't assume you know. Maybe for him its different than it was for you.

  Point out to him how the JWs make your feel "stupid" because a lot of their dogma can't be explained. (It's their weaving of facts & fantacy) Point out to him, very gently, some inconsistencies that you are aware of.

  Also show how they are a fear based religion (Armagedon, not havning family members, etc) And how they use guilt to keep people in their place.

  I think a quick summary of the JW's in Apocalypse Delayed was good.

  But find out where he really is at. Then go from there.

  Good luck.

  Joy

  also show unconditional love and point out the JW's don't.
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  2005 Barbecue Is Definitely On!

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  saturday seems to be much preferred over sunday, so this years bbq will be held on saturday, july 9th, commencing around 2 pm.

  location is our home in weston super mare.

  as usual, the day will be very boozy and proceedings will conclude in the waverley pub.

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  Joyzabel

  psssst e-man,

  send jst2laws a note about how he needs to be there, blah, blah, blah, I'm still trying to get him to jump the pond. He hates the long flight.