Joyzabel

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  Interesting JW / blood case (abdominal pregnancy)

  by Scully in

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  hemoglobin level was 6.9 mg/dl, and hematocrit value was 20.1%.

  postoperative hemoglobin level was 2.8 mg/dl.

  our patient's case was complicated, since she was a jehovah's witness and refused lifesaving treatment on religious grounds.

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  how sad. Too bad her doctor didn't use her blood he found in her abdomen (autotransfusion) because of "ethical" reasons. hmmmmmmmmm
  "Operative reinfusion was considered, but both the patient and her husband refused this modality."
  "Intraoperative transfusion was considered in our patient's case but was rejected by the attending physician as unethical." "When she refused transfusion, her physicians were faced with an ethical dilemma, based on the ethical principles of the Hippocratic Oath and autonomy. Do we do what we believe is in the best interest of the patient (transfuse), or do we abide by the patient's wishes (autonomy)? Her physicians, as well as the hospital ethics committee, believed that autonomy was the overriding ethical principle. " The article didn't mention how old her other child was, but that was her second pregnancy.
  
  
  
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  Here comes trouble

  by Jourles in

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  they might be able to kick me in the nuts, but they can't knock me out.

  btw, 'catchthis' is a poser.

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  Joyzabel

  *waving @ Jourles*

  let us know, when you can, all that has taken place.

  *mental note----catch this is a poser*

  Joy
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  Flat Stanley is off traveling again!

  by Princess in

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  2. friends

  ok, i promised an update on stanley today.

  we found him over the weekend.

  seems he was getting cozy with aude in california.

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  I think most people were writing down their names and places on the back of Flat Stanely or the letter that came with him.
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  Are Bethelites more likely to leave the JWs than others?

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you any experience of families whose sons have gone off to bethel and then decided to not have any more contact with their family and jws at all very soon after returning?.

  i ask this question because i know of two families where this has been the case.. the first family had three sons who one after the other went to the london bether to 'serve' within a couple of years of eachother.. after three years there all three returned home completely different people.

  they then left home, left dub land, two married non jws and another lives with his girlfriend.

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  Joyzabel

  Ray Franz said to me once............"once you've seen the kitchen, you know what the resteraunt is really like "
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  10% of pregnant JW accept blood

  by richard in

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  2. medical

  an article in the professional journal obstetrics & gynecology (sep 2004) indicates that, if need arises, almost 10% of pregnant jws would agree to accept packed red blood cells while another 40% would consent to a variety of donated blood products.

  health care proxy was available in her chart.

  39.3% agreed to accept a variety of donated blood products,.

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  good for you, Shelly
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  2 JWs Sent Registered Letters For "APOSTASY"

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i was told that 2 "anointed" witnesses that had recently (on the night of the memorial) picketed in front of the kingdom hall were sent registered letters inviting them to a judicial committee meeting.

  the husband had told the elders when they first called last week that the elders should call off the meeting because his wife had once again had major tremors and had to be hospitalized due to being sent the letter.

  and that the elders should realize that they would surely get legal action against them if anything happened to his wife.

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  They broke the 11th commandent.
  
  "Thou shalt not go public"
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  Ozzie's Wine of the Month - June 2005

  by ozziepost in

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  2. friends

  it's been a while since we shared our wine tasting notes.

  perhaps this weekend is just the right time!

  our good navy friends have been keeping in touch from all parts of the globe while i was in hospital, phoning from this or that terminal.

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  COONAWARRA CABERNET SHIRAZ MERLOT 2002

  wow, that sounds wonderful.

  The only aussie shiraz I've tried is the "yellowtail" ...............but I'm willing to try something that is recommended.

  Thanks Ozzie, hope you are recooperating nicely.
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  Tour de France

  by Abaddon in

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  2. friends

  i've been following the tour since 1985 and am looking forward to this year's tour.

  armstrong could possibly break his own record of six wins (consequitive) and retire with seven wins in-a-row.

  thus far, only indurain has managed even five in a row (1991-1995).

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  yes

  I hope Lance wins but it was great seeing Indurain in Atlanta for the Olympics before he retired. His wife was cute pregnant, too.

  I have a hat that Lance signed back in the early 90's when he was with the Motorola team.......wonder how much it would be worth on Ebay.

  Anyway, we'll be watching everyday to see how the Tour goes..............go Lance.
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  I'm telling lies from the stage

  by DannyBloem in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i recently gave a public talk, and i really felt bad about it.. it was the public talk about the great flood of noahs days.

  the is so much evidence that this great deluge never happened, but that is something you can't tell the audience from the stage.

  (i will tell about that evidence if people are interested, but it is a bit off-topic now).

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  Joyzabel

  But what can I do? Refuse the talk, and all meeting parts, refuse the field service :) ?

  yes

  and yes you are right it is not an easy dicision but you are responsible for what comes out of your mouth. And if you promote/parrot the JW thing.....is that how you really want to be?

  It is a very hard decision, that's why some decide to fade, but once I learned the truth about the truth(tm) I never commented again, gave a talk or went in service. It is much easier than you think to fake it and JWs don't notice.

  Now go practice on your excuses for not telling lies anymore.

  btw, welcome to the board. You may find some courage to be yourself from reading the experiences here on this board.
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  blow out at kingdumb hall build today

  by johnny cip in

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  2. friends

  they are adding a second floor to this hall that they have had for at least 40 years.

  in gunhill rd bronx new york city.

  i started by asking dumb questions .

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  Arent you proving WTS right whenever you pull a splinter cell/metal gear? Just a thought...

  right about what, dingdong Dune? That people have the right to express themselves contrary to just parrotting what the WTBTs says? btw, welcome to the board, Dune. Joy