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  Is it better to just LEAVE or FIGHT?

  by ljwtiamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although, i have not been victim to the same level of damage from the wts as many of you on this site, i have noticed that it is very difficult to fight such a large entity with deep pockets and passionate (though misled) supporters.. .

  since i am still in the very early stages of leaving/fading, i wonder:.

  i have already spent the vast majority of my life sacrificially serving the interests of this org.

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  Joyzabel

  Nothing is black and white. One or the other.

  There are always many, many options. Learn to be and go with the flow.
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  My brother

  by Chia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just recently talked to my brother.

  he got thrown out of my mom's house before i did, because he was constantly staying out late, going to clubs and coming home drunk, and my mom had enough of it.

  the difference between us is that he still feels the dubs have "the truth.

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  Joyzabel

  Ask him what appeals to him with the JWs! Don't assume you know. Maybe for him its different than it was for you.

  Point out to him how the JWs make your feel "stupid" because a lot of their dogma can't be explained. (It's their weaving of facts & fantacy) Point out to him, very gently, some inconsistencies that you are aware of.

  Also show how they are a fear based religion (Armagedon, not havning family members, etc) And how they use guilt to keep people in their place.

  I think a quick summary of the JW's in Apocalypse Delayed was good.

  But find out where he really is at. Then go from there.

  Good luck.

  Joy

  also show unconditional love and point out the JW's don't.
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  2005 Barbecue Is Definitely On!

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  saturday seems to be much preferred over sunday, so this years bbq will be held on saturday, july 9th, commencing around 2 pm.

  location is our home in weston super mare.

  as usual, the day will be very boozy and proceedings will conclude in the waverley pub.

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  Joyzabel

  psssst e-man,

  send jst2laws a note about how he needs to be there, blah, blah, blah, I'm still trying to get him to jump the pond. He hates the long flight.
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  Monogamy - true or false?

  by Stephen John Gault in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recognizing that monogamy was nowhere proscribed in the bible other than "elders should be the husband of one wife" in the same breath as "hospitable" and "able to teach", how do you ex-jw's regard monogamy?

  and is what's good for the goose, good for the gander?

  and are you prepared to tell your partner about your non-monogamous nature and allow her/him the same latitude?

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  Joyzabel

  only with one girl at a time

  that's called serial monogamy
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  Pea up his nose!

  by pennycandy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has this happened to anyone else's kids?

  my 18 month-old is the only one of my three to ever do this.. he actually stuck 3 of them up there, but i squished the first one out then pulled out the 2nd one with tweezers.

  but i can barely see another one way back.

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  Joyzabel

  She said that is sprouted before she realized something was wrong.

  ROTFLMAO!

  *snort*
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  Question from Reader July 1 2005

  by skyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  read the questions from readers page 27 of the july 1 watchtower.

  it talks about blood.. dueteronomy 14:21 reads: "you must not eat any body already dead" does that contradict leviticus 11:40, which reads: "he who eats any of its body will wash his garments, and he must be un-clean until the eveing"?

  that is how the article starts out.

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  Joyzabel

  There is a motive behind this article and I hope they trying to salt the JW minds to except some future changes in the blood transfusion law.

  I agree.
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  WELCOME MADMAX

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  welcome mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  that is if she gets this far.

  well done!!!!!!!

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  Joyzabel

  Wonderful

  welcome both MadMax and her lovely daughter LouBelle.

  Joy
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  Abi Titmuss.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hl and i are very good friends with her aunt.

  yet she's incredibly embarrassed about abi.. interestingly, abi's father is very proud of her.

  i wonder how many dad's would feel like that about their daughter?.

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  Joyzabel

  such fine loooking chaps, the whole bunch
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  Prayers for outnfree

  by lilbit in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as some of you may know brenda/outnfree is going in for surgery on fri may 20 @ 10 am est.

  lets all send our collective prayers/good vibes to her during this hard time.

  (((((brenda))))

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  Joyzabel

  (((((Brenda)))))

  you're a hell of a tough lady. Thoughts are with ya, sweetie.

  Joy
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  It's official - 20 years out and free

  by Lady Lee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok 20 years out only 10 years free (cuz sometimes i'm a slow learner).

  yup may makes 20 years since i officially got the boot.

  20 years since i lost my entire way of life and had to start all over - no money, no home, no education, no job.. there's a sad kind of irony here in that except for the education i'm sort of in the same boat.

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  Joyzabel

  Congrats Lady Lee!

  you are such an inspiration for us all.

  Hugs,

  Joy