Welcome nextdoorgilr!
I'm also new here and I think you should listen to the very good advice above!
Please DON'T TELL ANTHING!!!!
i am new to this board after lurking for awhile (thanks so much for creating this place simon, and for everyone's shared thoughts!).
i am going crazy because i have recently allowed myself to begin thinking (and it is so fun!
) and i am an outspoken person, and it is very hard for me to keep my opinions and discoveries about this place under my hat!
Welcome nextdoorgilr!
I'm also new here and I think you should listen to the very good advice above!
Please DON'T TELL ANTHING!!!!
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Hi all,
I want to tell you more about me now. Like most of you, I was raised in. My dad got baptized as one of the JW as I was a little bit younger than 9. It was not a problem for me as there were many children in our cong and my parents were very open minded. I dedicated myself to God and got baptized at the age of 13 (we can speak later about if it were my own decision or not)
As a child, I wanted to be missionary in Africa (please don’t laugh AllTimeJeff). But as you know, sisters alone can’t do that…
During my teen years, teenagers in the cong had much party in the holidays, and we used to do much together. At that time (not the same anymore!!!), people in the Caribbean didn’t really care about what the GB was telling about the size of our getting together, so our parties were really huge (40-50 people), with biblical plays on the afternoon, diner around 6/7 pm and then music (normal Caribbean music) until midnight! So we didn’t really have the feeling of missing things in the world. The only problem was not to be allowed to go out with “worldly” nice guys.
There were also 2 elders in my cong, that didn’t like me at all and would have done anything to spoil my life. They always had something to say about (for ex.) the way I was dressing myself: oh not too short, just tooo narrow (!!) one could see my figure/shapes!!! I hated it and so did my parents and some other sisters from my cong.
Although my parents would have let me go to the university (like my sister did), I decided (“out of love” after a verrrrry urging talk) to be a pioneer.
I was 18 and I began pioneering in October 1995 (couldn't beginn in September as I was ill). Both parents were self-employed so I could work with mum and preach the rest of the time. 90 hours/month was not really a problem for me. I wanted to serve were there was need so my p-partner and I wrote to the bethel hoping they would send us to St Martin where they needed proclaimers. We had forgotten we were 2 young single sisters...So you can imagine the answer we got. But I didn’t want to give up and decided to go by myself (I think the GB prefer that way) to Europe to help in areas were English and French speaking bros and sis were needed. I landed in Austria. The 2 nd p-year was not very easy as I had to work the whole day: I struggled trying to make “my 90 hours” which was impossible.
While being in Austria, I started missing school and I told my dad, that I wanted to go to the university in order to be a translator. Pioneering alone was not fulfilling to me. He asked me if I wanted to remain a pioneer and I said yes. He promised to help me financially. One month later I lost him after an operation....My dad had been everything to me, I loved him above all things.
When I went back home in order to help mom on year or so, the elders (don’t have to tell which ones) told me I won’t be able to attend the p-school as I hadn’t managed to make “my 90 hours/month”. I was down…really down and cried in front of them. They “encouraged” me to remain one more year in the P-service and I could go to p-school. They also told me it was the decision of the CO. One month later I came to know it was a lie. My ex p-partner told me as the CO didn’t see me attending p-school he asked where I was….
That's all for the first part of the story…see you later for the rest
Desi
when you look back over the 130 year history of wt, what is the most bizzare/ridiculous/hilarious/absurd teaching or quotes that you have found?.
one of the ones i find hilarious is during the beth-sarim affair, rutherford announced that the world was laughing and mocking them because they don't believe the resurrection is going to come to pass when they said it was.
rutherford went on to say in effect "we will show them when people start coming back from the graves"... lol.
Teel most of them still teach and say in FS that there were no rains before the flood. We showed an elder the w98 1/15 that says we don't know if there was rain before and he came back with AN OLDER WT (70s) quoting that there definitly were no rains before the flood. I'm afraid you cannot help those people.
Desi
that's what i've been feeling lately!.
i've seen the light that the "truth" isn't the truth, but my husband is an avid believer.
unfortunately i realized this after we had a baby.
Hi NiceDream,
As you know I am in a similar situation. My husband still believes in the 607 WT explanations. I hope I’ll get CoC soon…I don’t give up. Please don’t. I just have the luck that I was the one "pushing" to go to the ministry (I think he hates it) or to have every meeting being prepared, daily scripture read so I think he will fade without seeing it (I hope). We did not prepare one single meeting since 2,5 weeks. That really a long time for me/us!!!!
But during and after the meeting of today my husband was upset about the argumentation against mother day he told me that it was a little bit farfetched and he doesn’t agree with it. On the way home, we also discussed about the lantern festival and I told him that our daughter could go next year as we didn’t find anything against it while doing some research last falling season. He agreed that she could go. But he still believes it’s the truth. Yesterday, he told me that if only 1% is wrong and the remaining 99% is ok, there is no better path. I didn’t protest. I just let it be. He will understand sooner or later…
Please excuse the mistakes as English is not my mother language...
Desi
i found it so interesting to see what information is held about you at the branch office, if you are or were an appointed man.. for instance.
name, address, date of birth, date of baptism, all dates where you have been an elder, ms etc, all the congs you have been appointed in.
s2 forms, letters of introduction scanned and available to read.
JWF you are "Genial"! Thanks!
we've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
Good idea bohm, I'll do it hihih!
we've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
don't know why I can't open my pm: error message. Will try later
we've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
I may be wrong. But as much as I can remember, we've been told it's Br Loesch. Where are you living inbetween?
we've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
Thanks to all for welcoming us so warmly!
I've just seen that it will be on June 12th and not the 8th (it doesn't matter). It's a Saturday: the whole afternoon :-(
We just took the opportunity to spend 3 days in Vienna. It will be great for the kids and for us to make a little break in our stressful life. But I must confess that since I know the truth about "the truth" I stopped preparing the meetings or reading our daily brochure...I've more time for the most important things in my life: my children/family.
I'll tell you more about this "special meeting" in 1 month...
Desillusionnee
we've got a special meeting in vienna, austria on june 8th (all austrian jw are invited to come to vienna) and i'm really curious about what they are going to tell us.
did you have such a meeting?
desillusionnee.
Merci beaucoup!!!