Three members of your family have attempted suicide recently? Sounds very traumatic indeed. Instead of "Researching past events" about the sad death of young ones, please look at doing something positive. Sadness and depression is lifted by helping people who are in need. Have you thought about doing some voluntary work for charity? I really enjoyed working for Cancer Research when I had time on my hands this year. If you can afford to buy some toys and bring them to the children's ward at your nearest hospital, your heart will be lifted when you see their faces light up. These are just a couple of ideas to lift your spirits and bring happiness to others at the same time. Take care.
donnye
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feeling sad
by berrygerry inthe past number of months have been traumatic for myself and my family.. the fascist practices of the wts have wreaked monumental harm to us all - with 3 members hospitalized for suicide.. researching past events brings one to the overwhelmingly sad story of bethany hughes, and her parents lawrence and arliss.. (arliss was featured years later on a dc for her courage through their ordeal.).
larry did what any normal, loving father would do.. try to protect his daughter.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocex1eu5v6u.
it is doubly sad knowing personally one of the wts lawyers involved, and his relatives who have left the wts despite the harsh consequences.. sometimes, i wish there were a "dante" hell.. .
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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...
by 2pink inmy husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
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donnye
Do you have to get a lawyer for a divorce? If your husband is reasonable and agrees to not give a lot of money to lawyers...... cut out the middle man - see if you can both agree on who looks after the children. If you are going to share having the children 50/50, then neither of you will have to pay the ex spouse any money. Agree to sell the home at 50/50percent for each of you. Or buy him out of the family home at 50% of the market value. Or he buys you out at 50%. I divorced my husband several years ago, and neither of us paid one penny to a lawyer. I gave him his share in cash for the home, and got his name off the title deeds. I filed for divorce - it cost me nothing because I was too ill to work at the time. He did not contest my application for divorce. It went through in 3 months. I am in the legal profession, and really hate it when people throw money away on lawyers unnecessarily. Please meet up with your husband outside of the family home - go to a coffee shop maybe. Come to an agreement by yourselves about all the important issues, and then lesser ones like who gets what furniture. I hope he is sober when you meet up.
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What Are Jehovah's Witnesses Known For In Helping Humanity? What Can They Brag About?
by BucketShopBill incatholic churches were known for starting schools, orphanages, resthomes, hospitals along with other ideas like universities.
we can debate who started what but you will be missing the point.
i know some of the best colleges were started by religion, what has the watchtower contributed to society as a whole?
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donnye
How will any of this help you with your judicial committee? Is it this week?
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What Are Jehovah's Witnesses Known For In Helping Humanity? What Can They Brag About?
by BucketShopBill incatholic churches were known for starting schools, orphanages, resthomes, hospitals along with other ideas like universities.
we can debate who started what but you will be missing the point.
i know some of the best colleges were started by religion, what has the watchtower contributed to society as a whole?
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To all you apostates out there - aka failed JW's
by donnye inby opening this post, you are admitting that you are failures - well done!
lol.
i must say, i have had so much fun on this site - some real laugh out loud moments for my friends and i to enjoy.. no need to respond - i am busy pioneering from tomorrow, so will no longer have time on my hands to sit at my pc enjoying laughing at your pathetic comments.
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donnye
By opening this post, you are admitting that you are failures - well done! LOL
I must say, I have had so much fun on this site - some real laugh out loud moments for my friends and I to enjoy.
No need to respond - I am busy pioneering from tomorrow, so will no longer have time on my hands to sit at my pc enjoying laughing at your pathetic comments. How sad you all are.
Goodbye.
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It's OK Lurkers, Paranoid former JW's, and even you current JW's....
by AllTimeJeff init's ok.... to post here on the internet, on jwn, and other jw related forums.. first of all, as we all know, the governing body doesn't provide a forum for jw's to "associate" with their brothers and sisters.
i'm just guessing, and i could be wrong, that its harder to control the flock when they have free access to information and each other.
damn electricity and the technology it brings..... anyway, i realize that for anyone leaving, or for practicing jw's, to post is a nervous thing.
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"don't let fear or propaganda stop you from learning about JW's. Just like JW's want to get others to learn about the real origins of their faith, many like me would like you to learn about the real origins of yours. It's only fair that you do."
AllTimeJeff -
I have no respect for those who use negative propaganda to encourage JW's to leave their religion, without offering somewhere better to go to.
Thank you for wanting to teach me about the real origins of the JW religion, but I have done enough study at the city library on this subject, for the last 25 years, and I am happy with what I have learned. I don't expect perfection from imperfect people. I hope you think this is fair.
Unlike those who have no strength of character, some of us continue to try and keep our vow of dedication to Jah, despite what satan throws at us.
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New exJW Pamphlet to leave with Bible Studies
by jwfacts inrecently someone asked for a pamphlet to leave with a neighbour that started studying with jws.
i noticed that they was not a lot available, so have put together something.
please let me know your opinion and any errors.
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donnye
Thanks for the pamphlets. Couldn't stop laughing. So many holes in it, and it looks like one of the old tracts from the 70's. But then again, you quote from the 1969 Awake, so it will all look very feasible.
I have printed off 100 copies for entertainment purposes at the congregation do on Saturday. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
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Do elders who get disfellowshipped blab about judicial committee's they served on?
by donnye inhas anyone ever worried about confessing something to the elders, only to find that they spend the next 25 years worrying that if those elders in 'the know' leave the organisation or get disfellowshipped, maybe they couldn't care less about making your misdemeanor public knowledge.
"if i'm going down, i'll take everyone i can with me".. i still worry about this scenario, and even though two of the elders in my case have died of old age, i will only feel really relieved once the last one does.. maybe current elders blab about the congregation members too.
i sincerely hope they would be too scared to do this in case there is an official complaint made against them for defamation of character and breaking a fellow believers confidence..
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Has anyone ever worried about confessing something to the elders, only to find that they spend the next 25 years worrying that if those elders in 'the know' leave the organisation or get disfellowshipped, maybe they couldn't care less about making your misdemeanor public knowledge. i.e. "if I'm going down, I'll take everyone I can with me".
I still worry about this scenario, and even though two of the elders in my case have died of old age, I will only feel really relieved once the last one does.
Maybe current elders blab about the congregation members too. I sincerely hope they would be too scared to do this in case there is an official complaint made against them for defamation of character and breaking a fellow believers confidence.
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How did you respond?
by Simon Morley inwe have not attended any meetings for several months now as we continue our fade.
how have you dealt with the nosey parkers who hold the territory that you live in and insist on "dropping by".
first it was the family that holds the card and then a coule of other familes as they work our territory.. i am tired of not answering the door (they know we are home) and need a cute but not revealing comeback to the "we miss you at the meetings" line.
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I always used to answer the door to everyone. Then brother and sister slander saw me in the street and accused me of not answering the door to their knocks. From then on I don't answer the door unless I am expecting someone.
Now, when they and others see me in the street and ask nosey parker questions, I advise them to meditate on 1 Peter 4 v 15 - "let no-one suffer as a busybody". That leaves them speechless and I say goodbye. LOL.
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An Elder That Helped Me
by dontplaceliterature inhas anyone in this forum ever had an elder in the organization discuss "apostate" teachings with them in a non-threatening, mutually enlightening way?
obviously, there are many of you who have talked with elders about "apostate" ideas, and have been disfellowshipped/disciplined for it.
that's not really what i'm interested in hearing about in this thread, no offense.
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Unfortunately not. An elder rang me up after me being AWOL for about 6 months, and asked me if I was going to come back. I replied "well the thing is, I have some issues with the truth that I need to get my head round". His response? "ok then, bye". I was actually rather hurt that he didn't want to give me any assistance in order to see me back at the meetings. He obviously thought I wasn't worth it.
A month later another elder came round, because his wife had told him that he had missed my telephone call. I was miffed he had come round without his wife or anyone else, but needed to speak to him, so left the door wide open. When he sat down I said "I know I have not been at the meetings for 7 months but I have some issues with the truth that I need to get my head round". His response? "well I haven't come round to speak about that". He then started going on about the problems he was having in the bedroom department with his wife. At this point I showed him the door, and made it clear that I won't be asking for his help again.