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Christmas card for WT-elders

by Carlo in

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i feel to send christmas cards to wt-elders.

i will wish them a merry christmas, a happy new year and the hope that the witchpower society will have even more decrease in the year to come, than in the years before.. do you know of any arrogant wt-elders.

then hand me over their names and postal addresses.

Mary

Scully said: "....I think it would be even funnier to abduct the entire elder body and then while they are unconscious and blindfolded, Krazy glue white beards and red velvet suits to them. Drop them all back at the KH just in time for the chloroform to wear off, just as people start showing up for the meeting........."

Oh my god...........I would pay ANYTHING to see that! I know one fat slob of an elder I'd like to do this to.......then I'd stick a reindeer hoof up his ass and glue his feet to the front sidewalk at the Hall so everyone could go by and enjoy!!!

".....Another team would be Krazy gluing Christmas lights all over the KH and putting up a tree by the front door. A big sign would be outside that says "New Light Provided - Merry Christmas you Friggin Grinches!!....."

ROFLMFAO!!!!!

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You've just won the lotto...Now what?

by nakedmvistar in

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you have just won 100,000,000 in the lottery!

what would you do next?

Mary

I would reward all my friends, and smite all my enemies .

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Morality Q. Would You Betray Diana For 10 M?

by Englishman in

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james hewitt has outraged public opinion by offering to sell princess diana's reputedly very sexy love letters that she once penned to him so ardently.

he wants a cool ten million pounds, that's about $16m.. oddly, in a sky news poll, the question "would you sell her love letters for 10 million pounds?

" has revealed that 48% of brits would do so if they had the opportunity.. the situation is further complicated by prince harry's extraordinary resemblence to hewitt, although hewitt denies that he is the lads real father.. my q is this: would you sell the letters for 10 million pounds if they were yours to sell?.

Mary

James Hewitt is a cad to the 100th degree.........10 million pounds is alot of money, but does he have NO sense of decency at all?? Diana has been dead for over 5 years - when is this poor woman going to be allowed to rest in peace?

And any fool can figure out that there's no chance that he's Prince Harry's father. Harry was born in September, 1984. Diana didn't start her affair with James Hewitt until 1985. Simple arithmetic here people........Harry has red hair alright, but so does Diana's two sisters and her brother - it's a Spencer trait that Harry obviously inherited. Diana's brother and James Hewitt could probably pass for brothers but it doesn't mean they're related............

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My Mother &" The Faithful & Discre...

by minimus in

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lately, my mother keeps talking about how so many are appreciative of the "faithful & discreet slave class".

we got into a discussion that prompted me to tell her that there is no such thing as the faithful slave class and that it was all an invention of rutherford because the first "faithful slave" was dead.

so now everthing is a slave.

Mary

Minimus I know how you feel. My parents are in their early 70s now and they've both been Witnesses since the age of about 9 or 10. My father is disillusioned with the Borg because he was told he'd never be old or face death in this System of Things, and he was specifically told NOT to pay into his pension plan at work when he was 19 years old. He's very bitter about that. However, when I've tried talking to him about the 607 BCE and how it's an incorrect date, he turns a blind eye. My father is smart and he knows the implications. I've talked to my sister about it and I've done research on cults and the mentality its members have. I feel that at his age it would do more harm than good for him to realize that this is a false religion and that he's wasted his life on a false hope. It could easily put him in an early grave. Therefore, I don't say anything about it anymore.

Interestingly, my father watched the CNN and Dateline programs on the pedophile problem within the Organization, and he firmly believes that there IS a major problem and that this is not just some "apostates" tooting their own horn. He even said that the GB members "have alot to answer for at Armageddon" for the cover-up.

If your mom is 78 years old, she probably has the same mentality as my father. I figure at that age, it's better just to let them be, if you still have an otherwise, good relationship with them.

Just my two cents worth........

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Are JW's Showing Enough Appreciation To Apostates?

by Englishman in

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imho, definitely not!

we are the chappies who keep the congregations clean!

take the un debacle.

Mary

Englishman said: "......this took a departing JW elder plus thousands of letters to congregations from hundreds of JWD posters to alert the elders to the prevalence of paedophilia within the congregations. Faced with overwhelming evidence the WTBTS are reluctantly accepting the fact that they have a massive problem in their midst and are beginning to inroduce new guidlines into the art and mystery of paedophile management......."

They ARE??? This is news to me. My impression is that even after the Dateline, CNN and Panorama programs, they STILL refuse to admit that there's a problem. They've never acknowledged the problem, they've certainly never apologized and they seem intent on disfellowshipping anyone who's been abused or who has knowledge of the cover-up within the Organization......have they actually admitted publically that there's a problem?

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The Elder just walked out my door...

by ezrabrooks in

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i was having my usual bible study on thursday, with an elder from our local kingdom hall.. we are about half way through the knowledge book.. when i brought up the u.n. scandal and the silent lambs thing he just walked right out my door.. i am left wondering if he will come next week or if i am disfellowshipped even before i am baptized?

edited by - ezrabrooks on 14 december 2002 22:10:6.

Mary

Ezra, don't worry, you can't be disfellowshipped unless you're baptized.........if you're just studying with this elder they can't do anything to you.

Either he'll never be back or, as has already been suggested, he'll be back with a mouthful of excuses and show you "from the scriptures" how "the god of this System of Things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers" (1Cor 4:4) or how Satan "walks around like a roaring lion, waiting to devour someone", and that your only hope of escaping his clutches is to right in the middle of the Borganization. He'll tell you how the pedophile and/or UN scandal is just a bunch of lies made up by "apostates" and that it's "Satan persecuting Jehovah's Organization".....after all, didn't the Pharisees make up lies about Jesus? Didn't they have him put to death on trumped-up charges? We can well expect that Satan would do the same today......after all, "the time left is reduced" and "we're on the threshold of the Great Tribulation", blah, blah, blah......

If he DOES come back, don't let him flit from topic to topic. Ask him how he KNOWS that it's all lies.......and watch him walk out the door again........

And don't forget "A religion that says it has all the answers, allows no questions."

Edited by - Mary on 15 December 2002 9:7:2

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Would GETTING LAID MORE OFTEN help NUTTERS ?

by Focus in

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question.

would getting laid* more often help nutters/fanatics/extremists get over their problems?.

answers please, which for the sake of relevance should be restricted to references to past conduct on "ex/anti-jw" discussion boards.. this is a most serious question given a certain heart attitude, and point-of-view, that has been brought to my recent attention through my extensive spy monitering nutworks.. the objective is, naturally enough, to ably assist any allegedly afflicted ones, by providing them with hints as to how to attain what may be wanting in their lives.. please be constructive and upbuilding.

Mary

Seeing as Saddam Hussein probably has as many wives as King Solomon, and 56 children, and he's the biggest nut-bar in the world, I wouldn't say that getting laid helps fanatics no matter what religion they're in!!!

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Visited by JWs today

by Soledad in

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my mom had an accident about two weeks ago, fortunately she is ok. im living in my parents house now after my husband (yet again) threatened to "beat the crap out of me"---that story in another post some other time.

needless to say, ever since she got out of the hospital the phone rings about 50 times a day, mostly calls from the "hermanos.

" today a couple that i have known for about 15 years comes to visit, and their "discomfort" with my presence (i am da) is quite noticeable.

Mary

Soledad, good for you!! You're absolutely right in trying to "kill them with kindness" ........JWs expect everyone who's DA'd or DF'd to suddenly become the spaw of Satan which is why they seem to have such terrified looks on their faces whenever you see them..........

onthego, that was a fantastic summary you did of the Christmas season!I think a summary like this might make alot of Witnesses stop and take notice........good work!

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right to not salute flag

by zehrah in

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hey everyone .

i'm doing a term paper on the flag salute case, mainly the court cases minersville v gobitis and west virginia v. barnette.

i'm looking for anyone who had a problem with saluting the flag when they were in school.

Mary

Hi Zehrah;

I'm not an American, I'm a Canadian, but here's my two cents worth in case you're interested:

I personally see no problem with saluting a flag. I know the argument from the Witness' point of view is that it's a form of worship. This simply isn't true. According to the dictionary, the word "worship" means any of the following: Adoration, Adulation, Glory, Veneration, adulate, bless, deification, devotion, exalt, glorify, homage, idolize, immortalize, etc.

The meaning of the word "salute" is as follows: acknowledge, address, honor, pay tribute, pledge, praise, receive, etc.

The two words have two totally different meanings, which clearly shows that saluting something like a flag, is not the same as worship......end of story. I find it rather ironic that the Governing Body members refuse to allow their members to "acknowledge, honor, or pay tribute" to a country that guarantees THEM the right to Freedom of Religion. In other words, they'll take full advantage of our country's laws that allows them to do whatever they want, but at the same time, you're not suppose to show them honour or thanks in any way, shape or form. How truly Christian is that??

I also find it hypocritical, that Witnesses can stand up for a Judge in a court of law to show him "honour", but you can't stand up for the flag to show your country honour.

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Just be disfellowshipped - need to chat

by CraigSA in

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hey all - new here.. well i have now just bee shut off from my family and branded disfeloowshipped and an apostate.

sheesh anyway - for those of you who have been through simular - let me know.. craig.

jhb south africa

Mary

Hey Craig! Welcome aboard...........I'm not DF'd so I don't know what you're going through, but you'll find relief and alot of comfort on this board. I went for years before the Internet was invented, thinking I was going crazy because I felt that alot of doctrines the JWs had weren't right, but I had no one to talk to about it.

Thanks to the Internet, I was thrilled when I found out I wasn't going insane, and that the WTB&TS are the ones that are in the wrong........they'll have alot to answer for on Judgement Day, believe you me........

Once again, welcome