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607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

by Witness My Fury in

if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

Mary

djegghead said: I'm done with this.

Ya....until next time there's a discussion on it and you'll simply reiterate all the silliness you did on this thread. You're not the first JW apologetic to do this and I'm sure you won't be the last. The truth of the matter is, there is no historical, biblical or archaeological evidence that Jerusalem first fell in 607 BCE. This is an invention of the WTS and they foolishly put all their eggs in one basket on this one. By tying the entire structure of their belief system to this erroneous date, they have been responsible for all the false date setting and false prophecies that have come out of this religion since its' inception 130 years ago.

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JW Talk Radio- My First Guest Flaked

by PublishingCult in

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ok, my first guest has flaked on me.

this is a little disappointing because i was looking forward to a discussion about homosexuality and the bible that people could really sink their teeth into.. .

other the other hand, i am relieved.

Mary

Enjoy your summer sweet-cheeks!!

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Soaring Gas Prices

by 1975 in

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what effect will the gas hike have on you?.

Mary

2 years ago when the financial meltdown came, gas around here was at 65 cents a litre. It cost me about $33.00 to fill up. I just went out to fill up tonight because the price is supposed to skyrocket tomorrow and it cost me just over $70.00.

This is horseshit.......this is not "supply and demand" because demand has not doubled in the last two years. This is North America being stupid enough to cut production over here and become dependent on foreign (aka, Saudi Arabia) oil, where we hereby allow the bastards who run the show to bankrupt the rest of the free world by cutting production and jacking the prices up.

I sold my car one year ago, bought myself a bike, and have saved thousands

I applaud your efforts and I wish I were in a position to do the same thing. Unfortunately, I can't. My parents are elderly and I need to be close by and I am not going to uproot them at their age. There is no public transportation system from where I live to where I work and jobs around where I live are pretty scarce at the moment. I wish the shoulders on the road were paved, because I would seriously consider buying an electric bike to get to work, even though it'd probably take a couple of hours.....

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I also have questions about field service...

by losthobbit in

i never was a jw, so please excuse my lack of knowledge here.... after reading some posts on this forum it seems i've realized that i don't fully understand what field service is.

it seems that field service is the following (and please correct me):.

- something jw's have to do for a specific number of hours per month.

Mary

Can you turn water into a good Cabernet Sauvignon? If so, I'm there!!

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Alien invasion soon

by badseed in

lol.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/18123/56/.

Mary

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/18123/56/

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PROTESTS AT WATCHTOWER CONVENTIONS

by Lawrence Hughes in

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dear friends,.

as you may know, the watchtower society takes great pride in its district conventions.

please contact me if you can attend any of these protests.. there is no reason why every district convention in the world could not have a protest and receive media coverage to expose the watchtower society.

Mary

When I was a kid going to the summer ASsembly, I distinctly remember some 'apostates' standing out front holding up the NWT and a 'worldly' bible. The guy was yelling at the top of his voice "Why did you change God's Word the holy bible?!" and "The Governing Body are not the Faithful and Discreet Slave!" and---well, you get the idea. I was actually scared to walk past him given his demeanor and no one paid them the slightest bit of attention even though in hindsight, he had some valid claims.

The point of the matter is: even if you have a legitimate beef against the Organization (and I believe Lawrence does), it simply does not do any good going to assemblies to protest like this. When it comes to dealing with people who are under mind control, a direct assault rarely, if ever, works. If the main objective is to make Witnesses wake up and smell the coffee, you don't hurl a 50 lb. bag of beans in their face----you brew a pot and let the subtle aroma reach them. Sites like JWN or Freeminds or people reading CoC have all produced far greater results in getting people out of the Borg than any demonstrations at the summer assemblies........I think Simon should turn in a Field Serve-Us Report and write down how many people his website have gotten out and then send it in to Crooklyn.

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I also have questions about field service...

by losthobbit in

i never was a jw, so please excuse my lack of knowledge here.... after reading some posts on this forum it seems i've realized that i don't fully understand what field service is.

it seems that field service is the following (and please correct me):.

- something jw's have to do for a specific number of hours per month.

Mary

djeggnog said: We do not seek folks out with whom we might posit arguments to score points in debating these with them, but our endeavor is to provide relief and comfort to those poor in spirit, and to release those held captive to the false religious systems of worship

Translation: We don't discuss the bible with anyone who has a better understanding of the bible than what JWs do, because that might start the braincells working and even if the person at the door can prove from the bible that the WTS's interpretation is wrong, a Witness cannot accept that and will hightail it out of there in record time.

their entering a "city or village" to search out who in the city or village was deserving clearly required visiting people at their homes, which is the primary approach that Jehovah's Witnesses take in searching out deserving ones, just as the apostle Paul points out at Acts 20:20 that in addition to engaging in publicly teaching fellow Christians, he also engaged in doing so "from house to house" as Jesus had instructed his followers to do.

This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Did Jesus and his followers preach? Absolutely they did or Christianity would have never gotten off the ground. However, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that either Jesus or his followers preached door to door like Witnesses do today. I did a thread on this subject a few years ago debunking the WT's ridiculous and non-scriptural idea that Jesus and his followers went knocking on strangers' doors. If you're interested, here is the link: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/165144/1/COMMENTS-YOU-WILL-NOT-HEAR-AT-THE-WT-STUDY-09-07-08-HOUSE-TO-HOUSE-MINISTR

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PROTESTS AT WATCHTOWER CONVENTIONS

by Lawrence Hughes in

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dear friends,.

as you may know, the watchtower society takes great pride in its district conventions.

please contact me if you can attend any of these protests.. there is no reason why every district convention in the world could not have a protest and receive media coverage to expose the watchtower society.

Mary

koolaidman said: I think some of the comments made about Lawrence wanting to protest were unkind and hitting him below the belt.

And what about your pathetic comment that most people on JWN are "moral cowards" who are "hiding behind there cartoon avatars still scared to death of the Watchtower Org"? On previous threads, you've already accused posters of being Watchtower spies? In fact, if this is your view of posters on JWN, why do you even bother posting on here anymore?

You seem to be rapidly losing touch with reality Rick. As Coffee Black already mentioned, your credibility is shot through no one's fault but your own and now you seem to be suffering from the 'persecution complex' like other JW apologetics do: they come on here, say something inflammatory to stir the hornets' nest, then when they get the backlash, they can breathe a sigh of relief thinking "Ahhhhh.....I'm being persecuted just like Jesus said his true followers would be. Proof that I must be right!" It would also appear that you're egging Simon on to ban your sorry ass so you can add further to your persecution complex. Despite repeated warnings from him to knock it off, you're still intent on trying to promote your particular brand of bullshit crap even though you've been exposed as a hoaxster and someone who apparently suffers from delusions of grandeur amongst some other mental problems.

For god's sake, seek professional help.

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How was your Mother's Day?

by journey-on in

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mine was terrific.

loving visits, cards, dinner, and togetherness.

i know if i had remained a witness, at least one of my children would have left the borg, and we would probably not have the beautiful relationship we now have.

Mary

Hey Coffee......glad to hear your daughters' on the mend!

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PROTESTS AT WATCHTOWER CONVENTIONS

by Lawrence Hughes in

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dear friends,.

as you may know, the watchtower society takes great pride in its district conventions.

please contact me if you can attend any of these protests.. there is no reason why every district convention in the world could not have a protest and receive media coverage to expose the watchtower society.

Mary

I have the utmost sympathy for Lawrence as his daughter died from acute myeloid leukemia, which is very similar to what my brother in law died from. Do I hold the Organization responsible? To a great degree, yes. I don't know every aspect of Bethany's case, but I can certainly understand Lawrence's rage and frustration at a cult that helped break up his family and hastened his daughter's death.

While I don't think that public protests at ASSemblies really do anything other than reinforce the 'angry apostate' view that Witnesses have, if it helps him deal with his grief and anger, then I say power to him.