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LostnFound
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Anyone watch Oprah about Tony Alamo's child brides?
by NiceDream init was so sad to see these children raised in a crazy religion and abused by their preacher (tony alamo).
what was more disturbing was how similar some things were to jws, such as blaming the victim instead of the abuser.. one child bride made an escape from tony and ran away from his house, running for 2 miles before she reached the home of a complete stranger and asked if they could help her.
they let her stay the night and gave her money for a bus ticket to her mother in california.
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Anyone watch Oprah about Tony Alamo's child brides?
by NiceDream init was so sad to see these children raised in a crazy religion and abused by their preacher (tony alamo).
what was more disturbing was how similar some things were to jws, such as blaming the victim instead of the abuser.. one child bride made an escape from tony and ran away from his house, running for 2 miles before she reached the home of a complete stranger and asked if they could help her.
they let her stay the night and gave her money for a bus ticket to her mother in california.
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LostnFound
I wish I had cable.
That's super sad and disturbing. There are some polygamists in the area around here and I cringe to think of what goes on in their property... It's weird how people can do stuff like that 'in the name of religion' or because they feel they are 'God's chosen minster'. He's like in his 70's isn't he? So too bad he didn't get that sentence earlier...
I feel bad for all those whose lives he made a nightmare.
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Two year old smokes 40 ciggies a day
by gubberningbody inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1281538/smoking-year-old-ardi-rizal-40-cigarettes-day.html.
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"taking a deep drag on his cigarette while resting on the steering wheel of his truck, he looks like a parody of a middle-aged lorry driver.
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LostnFound
Yeah... how did he get one in the first place, and who lights them for him? Disgusting.
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Fun and Games in Field Service
by Backspacer income on guys... it wasn't all that bad was it?
there were some fun times and some very funny things that happened in those car groups.
please share.... my favorite story comes from my daughter.
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LostnFound
One time (and only once) my family went in service with the CO (who was a really nice and easy goingelderly man) and he picked the territory that was having a community wide garage sale. About 5 minutes in, we just all started shopping. He was looking for a deal, and found a bunch. It was nice to be able to enjoy a morning, instead of being all uptight.
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Anxious about meeting...
by gutted ini know there are other topics related to this, i started one earlier similar to this but here goes anyway.. so i skipped a couple of meetings of the co visit to hang out with some "worldly" friends and we went out of town.
i think some of my closer "friends" at the hall found out from my family and now i am dreading going to the next meeting and hearing their encouring "where were you!?"..
it fills me with anxiety.
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LostnFound
When people used to say "oh, we've missed you- have you been sick, are you ok, is everything in your life ok?"
I would just simply answer "Yes, thank you for your concern". Then I would ask them how they are, or what's new with them. The conversation was always stopped being about me after that.
I was never asked directly where I was but I think I would have answered "I wasn't able to make it to the meeting, thanks for your concern". And then ask them how they are, and that should deflect the heat- because people love talking about themselves.
Good luck, I know I would personally dread going back because of all the questions. Just be vague and polite, and ask them something and you should be ok!
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How Did You Move on to Relationships with non-JWs?
by daringhart13 inthis is a really fascinating topic for me.....mainly because i'm single lol.
but what was it like to navigate through the waters of other people while getting into relationships?
did you wonder what to do about holidays?
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LostnFound
I consider myself pretty lucky...
I met my now-husband while I was still going to meetings. I felt really comfortable around him which suprised me. (I was pretty nervous to date or 'look for a guy', because I was young and my only experience had been dating an elders son- and that pretty much sucked). We started talking daily, religion came up quite a bit- however, since I met him when I was still an active JW he knew my basic beliefs. (He actually googled it, and found a lot of fault- but he never cut me down, he was really patient even when I got all preachy). We took things pretty slow... but I was constantly paranoid I would run in to someone from the hall, or 'get caught'. He was really patient. I look back now, and see how crazy I was looking at others around me and worrying.
Eventually it got serious enough for us to move in together. I wasn't scared because it felt right. As for holidays, his parents divorced when he was a tot, and he spent so many years moving around he never spent the holidays with his parents or family- so it was a non issue. An issue that came up for me personally, was dealing with the jealousy of his past relationships. I really thought people met like one or two people and that was it... (I know pathetic, but the that's what I was taught!) But even that was something that I was able to get over, it took a while but it happened. His mom had an issue with me having not done any post secondary schooling (she has a masters), because she thought it was totally weird and like I wasn't living up to my potential. It hasn't ever bothered me though. We also have money set aside in case I ever want to go back. She asks me about it often. He doesn't care about it. The first time I met his mom, she drilled me about blood transfusions for like 10 minutes, and I was trapped in her car with no way of escaping. She was involved with another cult-religion for 14 years, so now we have good chats about it- but it was pretty awkward at first. I think his family was more afraid of me converting him, then he was. When it got awkward with my parents (after I left) he was really there for me and did everything he could to try and make things better between us all. It worked!
He was very open last year when I said I wanted to go back to meetings, he even drove me to my Judicial meeting (the elders wanted to see if God would approve of me coming back, and ask me juicy questions about my 'relationship/s' pre-marriage) and waited. He drove me to all the meetings, and never told me it was stupid. After a couple months of going again I realized it wasn't something I wanted to do at all (in my heart I felt completely done), and he was really good about that too. I consider myself very lucky to have met someone so open-minded, patient, and respectful. Religion was a big thing between us, but now we are on the same page- and it feels good and right.
My time with him has been the happiest of all my life!
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how many of you in the USA have visited England
by RosePetal inif any body from usa have visited england i would like to know if you liked your stay.
what was your experience?
did you visit while still a dub did you visit any congregations and make any life long friends?
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LostnFound
I am from Canada... but I wanted to say that I have been to London! I love that city, and feel like it changed my life. I don't know what exactly happened, but when my husband and I left I just felt different inside. Everyone we met was very nice, there was lots to do and see, and I enjoyed eating fries everyday. We had a great walk in Hyde Park, we saw two great plays, seeing the memorial 'fountain' for Princess Diana was so special.. I would love to go back one day.
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disfellowshipping announcements
by asilentone inwhen they announced disfellowshipping of certain individuals in your congregation?
were you shocked?
tell me about it.
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LostnFound
There were quite a few people in our hall that got disfellowshipped over the years. Like Coffee House Girl, I'd get tense too- it just made me feel so awkward. Two of the individuals were my friends, and I knew their circumstances. It's still pretty weird though. When you sit at the back of the hall, you can see husbands and wives turn to eachother and whisper, hear kids whisper 'what does that mean?' and the persons family members with their heads down, cheeks red, tears...
There was so much gossip in that Kingdom Hall, that I was never surprised. It seemed like someone always knew something incriminating or details about another person, and then a few months later they would be disfellowshipped. It's too bad. There was a lot of unhappiness, and deep rooted anger from how people's children were treated in Judicial Meetings (and then the decision as to whether they were privately reproved/publicly reproved/disfellowshipped).
It makes me sad to think about all the familys that lost those years with their kids (or friends) because of it, life is too short not to talk to someone because of a choice they made, and someone else got to judge.
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I like the people in my Kingdom Hall!
by lavozsa inthis may sound like a funny title, but it is actually true.
just to give a brief background on myself, i've been a jw for nearly 12 years now.
i didn't grow up in a jw family, nor is anyone else in my immediate family a jw (except my wife and her family).
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LostnFound
I liked the people in both of my halls as well, they were genuinely nice people. In fact, I had some dear family friends for over 11 years, however- at my first signs of 'trouble' not one of them tried to 'help' or talk to me about what was going on. I was written off very quickly! Even after I came back to a convention about 2 years later, they walked right by me and completely ignored me when I said hello. The friendships are so conditional, based on perception of others. When I stopped going to the meetings, I knew they would want to 'protect their own spirituality' and not associate with me. It still hurts though, when you have put 11 years into a friendship.
When I left (which was hard because my whole immediate family was/is involved), I felt like I had no one- but in having no one I found out who I truly am.
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What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?
by minimus ini've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".
the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .
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LostnFound
I got spoken to for talking to my boyfriend of a year (both of us were baptized) after the meetings. Even though it was in the main hall where there were lots of eyes, we were both told to keep our distance. I was also personally advised to 'widen out' and befriend some of the older sisters- as it 'appeared I spoke only to the young men'. Could I help it that all the young girls figured out how crazy it was and left?!