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  Lurkers Ask yourself this ??????????

  by JT in

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  http://www.wwwddd.com/bible/secrets/home.shtml .

  why is it that the wt society not the done above?????????.

  now think about it esp when you consider the role that the net has played in getting info to millions with the click of a mouse.

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  JT

  HOW DID you get the link to activate- i couldn't thanks

  james
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  Lurkers Ask yourself this ??????????

  by JT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.wwwddd.com/bible/secrets/home.shtml .

  why is it that the wt society not the done above?????????.

  now think about it esp when you consider the role that the net has played in getting info to millions with the click of a mouse.

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  JT

  http://www.wwwddd.com/Bible/Secrets/home.shtml

  Why is it that the WT Society not the done above?????????

  now think about it esp when you consider the role that the net has played in getting info to millions with the click of a mouse

  james
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  Conditional love

  by noidea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

  you are only loved if you tow the line.

  i only have one thing to say,.

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  JT

  real elder you mentioned that:

  Yes, I am a real elder and no I am not on the way out.

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  since many of us were elders and we know the rules - esp in ref to being on sites like this one-could you share with us how you personally Reconcile the issue of being here with Apostates according to the FDS and your being loyal to God's visible Org

  thanks

  james
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  Conditional love

  by noidea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

  you are only loved if you tow the line.

  i only have one thing to say,.

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  JT

  RealElder

  just like to welcome you to the forum

  look forward to your insight and prospective on the org and the direction that you see it is going in esp now that we have passed the
  yr 2000 mark.

  so welcome to the forum
  james
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  Conditional love

  by noidea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  being raised a jw sometimes you feel you only know conditional love.

  you are only loved if you tow the line.

  i only have one thing to say,.

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  JT

  hang in there girl

  smile
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  just for Kicks and Grins

  by JT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these guys are "experts".

  james.

  http://www.allexperts.com/getexpert.asp?category=1617

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  JT

  these guys are "Experts"

  james

  http://www.allexperts.com/getExpert.asp?Category=1617
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  A Discussion With An "Anointed" Elder

  by Defender in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an elder from my congregation visits my wife and i whenever he is in the area.

  it has been a while since his last visit.

  he used to come in uninvited and unexpected.

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  JT

  path of horns says:

  Unfortunately it is usually wasted on people like the elder you spoke with but the mental exercise is always good.

  I've decided to save my breath lately. Talking to people who can't think but only parrot off tired WT cliches is too frustrating

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  I agree with you 110%== why argue with an ATM since it is programmed to shut down and keep your card after the 3rd wrong try

  same with jw- after you answer thier question wrong on the 3rd time

  "Is JAH using the WT as his ONLY ORG"?

  YOU can't get upset when they shut down on you

  but like you said it is good mental exercise

  smile

  i too wouldn't waste my breath after percieving it is going in one ear and out the other

  If i didn't learn anything in wt i learned with to perceive a USELESS CONVERSATION out in service

  same when dealing with a jw - for me it don't take long to see that the:

  "shutdown.exe", "igotthetruth.dll" and "UanApostate.bak" Program files have kicked in

  smile
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  Feeling So Alone

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to post tonight.

  i'm feeling so alone.

  stopped here at the library to post this, on my way to the book study.

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  JT

  JT,
  Let me ditto what Farkel said. Putting yourself to great trouble and some risk for strangers, well, I just want to say I commend you. You break the mold. I hope these people thank you and I am sure they do. I would like to add my thanks to theirs. May you and your wife find the happiness and comfort you add to the lives of others. #1 was a good handle for you and Mrs. #1.
  Your friend,
  Grunt

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  we both thank you as well

  It was very scary having over to ones home folks who lives have been destroyed- as one sister sister i have not had any one to talk to in yrs who understood what i have been dealing with

  some had thier nonjw mates and many of them admitted that they did not understand the depth to which this religion went in their mates lives, but they too were thankful to be there and it helps them to help thier mates out when they exp depression for no reason

  other than thier old religion is bothering them

  the nonjw mates told me that they now understand much better the reasons they have had certain types of issues in their marriage and now can be more sensitive to thier needs

  the old "Just get over it" line as many of them have found out SIMPLY DON'T WORK

  so it was a learning exp for all of us

  i look forward to doing more-

  james

  but thanks
  again
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  Feeling So Alone

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to post tonight.

  i'm feeling so alone.

  stopped here at the library to post this, on my way to the book study.

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  JT

  : we arranged alittle dinner over at our house an a number of them showed up - the rest due to schedules were not able to make it , but they appreicated having someone just to bounce things off

  : we are planning another one in about 3 or 4 weeks

  You are one of the finest human beings I've even known in my 53 years of life. I consider it an honor and a privilege to have known you and to still know you, sir.

  Farkel

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  well thank you sir- but this is the key to helping those who leave in my opinion

  YOU GOT TO TALK TO SOMEONE FACE TO FACE OR at least on the phone- after speaking with another person who is or has gone thru the same thing makes all the difference in the world

  the point she made of being ALONE IS THE KEY to wt being able to control folks

  THE OLD "WHERE WILL YOU GO" AND ALL NON-JW are WICKED line is very powerful after being at bethel and coming out, being an elder I made sure i had no MALE- NON-JW friends beyond a hello how are you on my jobs and the hood i lived in

  so when i left wt i had no friends at all to talk to- on the other hand my wife secretly kept in touch with many of her "worldly" friends so when we left she had all these folks to hang with and go shopping with- -- me on the other hand it was hard as hell

  so having someone to bounce your feelings with is the key to helping folks like trouble get over the hump
  but it is up to them to take advantage of the tools

  I HAVE SPOken to so many former jw from OLD SCHOOL those who left in the 70' and some even in the 80's who for 10-20yrs could not shake that WT monkey off thier back till they got on the net and realized that they were not the only ones and they were not ALONE

  so i thank you for the kind words, but just trying to repay to others what was done for us-

  yes you can leave WT INTACT as much as can be expected after being in a cult but one can get on with life only if they use the tools that are out here to help them

  james
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  when will they announce my DA?

  by Sarah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how quickly do they announce a da?

  it was last friday when my husband and i da'd ourselves.

  this was just a verbal statement, i am not wasting a piece of paper and a stamp, just to tell them the same thing all over again.

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  JT

  it depends on your body of elders-
  some elders would followup with 2 elders to make a sheparding call just to make sure this is how you all felt or was it merely frustration and the feeling of worthless that jah don't love you, you are just discouraged, etc that cause you to say what you did

  or if you have some elders and they really didn't think much of you anyway they will just meet briefly after the next meeting and annouce it at the next service meeting

  so it all boils down to the body of elders

  james