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  Is Prince fading

  by ldrnomo in

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  2. entertainment

  looks like he's lightening up and starting to sing some of his old song that were erotic.. .

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101219/ap_en_tv/us_people_prince.

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  If he is, he won't be the last one to wise up .
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  Those affected by the economy and had to make a tough decision

  by SlipnSlide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  have you been offered assistance by family members and they had a clause in that assistance?

  my husband lost his job and we were offered help by his father (who was once an elder but has been reaching out for years).

  my husband is not a witness, although he was raised in it.

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  Mrsjones:

  I really enjoy reading your comments because you think a lot like me. I have explored other avenues and I have a small wait ahead of me. The good news is that my husband was able to secure employment. It's not the best thing, but it is something that will bring a little something in for now. I am dilligently looking for something myself. If it was not for my husband, and he did ask beforehand, I would just say to hell with it. This way we can save money because we don't have to pay any rent. I asked my father-in-law this morning point blank if his goal really was to get appointed as an elder again and he stated that "It does not matter what role I pay, I just want to serve where they need me". I do believe that, but I also know that as an elder, he thinks that he can get the respect they thinks that he deserves. Well, that's his deal. My goal is to move into our small apartment (grateful for that, by the way) and just live our lives whether I choose to go back to the meetings or not. This has really helped me because I never thought that I would face being treated like a child again. No one should have to have someone try to control their spiritual lives if it is not in their heart condition to do so. This may help someone else who might face this ridiculous decision.
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  Those affected by the economy and had to make a tough decision

  by SlipnSlide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  have you been offered assistance by family members and they had a clause in that assistance?

  my husband lost his job and we were offered help by his father (who was once an elder but has been reaching out for years).

  my husband is not a witness, although he was raised in it.

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  Thanks all, I just got back from the meeting and much of it was about how the elders have a great responsibility shepherding the flock, blah, blah, blah. It would have been a great meeting if only I did not hear the same thing for the umpteenth time, already. My father-in-law was just struting about like a proud peacock. I have really been trying to just bide my time while I'm here. Regardless of his intention, I just can't go back to that controlled environment.
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  High Profile Case: Seeking Reinstatement

  by headisspinning in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  but our situation is very difficult and quite high profile.... i was raised as a jw and my mother was very strict and abusive.

  i got baptized at age 14.. my mother actually called on my (present) husband's mom in service.

  she was on the initial call resulting in his mom coming in the truth and him being raised in it from about age 8 or 9.. despite a very abusive step-father, he followed his mom's lead and came into the truth.

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  I too am a survivor. I just can't see why this would be a difficult thing to just say "f--k this". Why do you give them so much control. Who the hell are they? This just makes me mad that they are allowed to treat you this way. Is this the love that Jesus said would identify them as his followers? Not a tough question to answer. I'm not in your shoes, but I have problems as well. If at all possible, just live your life the way that it is best for "your family" and continue the therapy because it may be a long way to what was a normal life. I'll be praying for you and your family.
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  Those affected by the economy and had to make a tough decision

  by SlipnSlide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  have you been offered assistance by family members and they had a clause in that assistance?

  my husband lost his job and we were offered help by his father (who was once an elder but has been reaching out for years).

  my husband is not a witness, although he was raised in it.

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  Have you been offered assistance by family members and they had a clause in that assistance? My husband lost his job and we were offered help by his father (who was once an elder but has been reaching out for years). My husband is not a witness, although he was raised in it. I am baptized, but I wised up earlier this year. I was fading very well before this happended. We are staying with his father and wife and there are a couple of rules:

  This is a spritual home and my son is "worldly", so attendance to the meetings are "mandatory".

  Sitting in on the Family Worship study with his wife.

  He is reaching again (mentioned above) and the only thing that matters to him is his "appearance" to the r & f in the congregation. His son has never been interested and will never be interested in becoming a JW, but his father thinks that he can finally get through him this way. I told his father that forcing someone to accept your way of thinking and way of life does not work in the long run. You can't make someone be a witness if they don't want to especially if they are "over 40". You would think that this is expected from a "child". His father knows that don't agree with this, but since my husband arranged this whole thing, I'll respect your rule of the house. This has made me bitter and I have had migraines since we got here. Forcing someone to do this is not an effective way to "witness to someone" and caring more about position and what it looks like to everyone else makes my skin crawl. I have been a strong minded person and I can handle myself sufficiently, but my husband feels that he has no other choice for now, even though he says that he feels that his manhood is in question. His father seems to think that I would like to meet some of the sisters in the congregation as friends (ain't gonna happen ). What is the best way to deal with this now that my fade has been interrupted? We may have to be in his home till the first of the year and I get more bitter by the day. I'm not interested at all by any "NOO LITE", NOO FRIENDS, or NOO CONGREGATION. His relationship with his son will suffer and all respect will be gone.

  Please help!
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  This is scary we are to put the GB in the same place as Jesus according to the Dec 15 WT

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i do not know how to scan the wt if someone can it would be great but i wrote it out verbatim .

  i think what the wt says speaks for its self.

  am i missing something and or reading something into what they are saying.

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  I'm with you Wobble on this!

  You can't have the GB, Jehovah and Jesus on the same level playing field. All of this "forced fed" food is becoming redamdiculous. It's statments like those in that watchtower that would make a thinking person question everything that we were thought.
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  Your First Dealings with Apostates

  by badcompany in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another thread sparked this memory but i didn't want to hijack.

  my first encounter with apostates was back at a district assembly around 1978. they were picketing outside peacefully with banners and such.

  no apostates below could see me but i could hear them.

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  We were always told to be on guard for them. In my mind, I wondered why it was such a big deal. I heard they they were at one of the convention days at the Seagate in Toledo, OH. I really looked for them, but there were eyes everywhere.
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  Is the WTBTS having cash flow problems?

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was at a 2 day circuit assembly this weekend and i was surprised at how many times mention was made directly or indirectly reminding those in attendance (1,600) of the need to give $$$.

  even in the soliloquies or skits they seemed to work in the need to give $$$.. it made me wonder if the society is having 'cash flow' problems and hence is desparate for cash.

  over the years that i've attended conventions and assemblies the need to give $$$ has been subtle (imo), til now.

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  Once thing for certain, I'm not "donating" anymore of my hard earned dollars to a corporation that has no respect for women. Women account for the majority of the rank and file members, so if they don't respect me, they don't respect my money and it stays in my pocket. I went to the meeting and I honestly thought everyone was asleep cuz they were so "dead". It was the same old info spewed from the podium and there was hardly a hand in the air when the poor brother conducting the book study had to answer the question himself. I looked around and there was no joy evident and out of the whole congregation, there were maybe 4 that actually sang while the music played. The bookstudy lesson regarding the role of elders left a bad taste in my mouth. It gave praises to "elders" and said that we should respect them and their position as the older men of the congregation because they have "many" responsibilities and most have families. Blah, blah, blah. What elders do you know are so deserving?
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  Where did you sit in the KH?

  by Evidently Apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the official wt understanding on where to park your butt during the meeting is to move around from meeting to meeting in order to get in more association or whatever but i never really saw things that way.

  the kh seating arraingment at my hall went as follows;.

  if you sat in the front you were really late or wanted to seem really spiritual.. the elders and pioneers always liked the same seats every meeting.. shiftless ones and those who wanted sympathy for thier back ailments would stand in the back during the talks.. ever had a sister in your hall bring in their own chair and footstool?.

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  At my KH there were always those one who would save seats (even though the announcement said not to) where I preferred to sit (the last row in the main auditorium). Since I intentionally arrived late, I would sit in the second school where I was able to leave asap. I did not want to talk to anyone at all!
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  I'm upset

  by littlebird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father in law passed away today.

  he was not a witness, but as he got to be more and more house bound, he would attend sunday meetings with my husband or my brother in law.

  tomorrow, a "brother" is buying the family dinner, im not welcome.

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  Truly sorry for your loss. I hope that those people who have genuine concern for you and your family really help you and your family to get through this difficult period. Been there and done that. I will pray for you and your family to have the strength to remember those great times that were spent with your loved one and never forget their positive influence on your lives.