I know of a situation where some J-dub parents whose oldest adult child is disfellowshipped with a young son (their only grandchild). They have recently re-written their will to leave the disfellowshipped son money...in a trust that will only pay out if he gets reinstated. If he remains disfellowshipped, he doesn't see a dime and the money will go to the grandson upon his 18th birthday...provided he is baptised. If he isn't, he doesn't get a dime either.
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Do Wills Ever Affect Shunning?
by Cold Steel ina man has several sons and daughters who are active jehovah's witnesses.
so was his wife, who died two years ago.
he has since lapsed into apostasy and has been openly critical of the governing body.
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why isnt the Revelation book on the jw website.
by Sojae ini asked my mother( still very much active).
she said books made from '86 and before would not be online.
so we both looked at her physical revelation book and it was made in 88 so it should be there.
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Ah...memories of the 2006 updates.
There was a brother in my hall who was the Bookstudy Assistant. Although he was the reader every week, he was told that he would not be allowed to continue reading if he didn't replace his "old" edition with the new one...even though he was dutifully, accurately, and articulately reading the updated notes. The Book Study Overseer told him that the friends might start thinking he was resistant to "keeping up with organizational changes."
He told me the only reason he wanted to keep using his old book was that it was 1. hardcover; and 2. already underlined, so he wouldn't have to waste his time re-studying it each week! Instead he was forced to replace it with the cheap paperback version that fell apart and make an attempt at underlining it so the B.S. Overseer would stay off his back.
He's since moved halls and misses quite a few meetings.
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Today's Daily Text is a Convoluted Mess
by TTATTelder inwednesday, december 11. his heart did not prove to be complete with jehovah.1 ki.
will we let solomons course be a warning example for us?
(1 ki.
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Haha...I remember this paragraph from when it was studied at the hall. I voiced to my S.O. that I found the paragraph very odd:
- "marry 'only in the Lord.' (In the Bible)
- "underreport taxable income" (In the Bible ("pay Caesar's things to Caesar...") not only against God's law, but can land you in Federal prison)
- "or tell untruths" (In the Bible and can land you in prison in certain situations)
- "share in extracurricular sports or clubs at school" (Whhaaaaatttt???? Seriously? Lump playing varsity tennis in with cheating on your taxes, lying, and violating a Biblical directive?)
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I AM CONFUSED WITH THE JAN STUDY EDITION?? Help me
by Sittingstraight1212 in2 jehovah will use the kingdom to unify his family in heav- en and on earth.
that divine purpose will be realized.
(isa.
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Ask a JW: "How long is Jesus' reign?" Answer: "1,000 years"
Ask a JW: "When did Jesus take his throne as King?" Answer: "1914"
Ask a JW: "So he's already done with 10% of his reign?" Answer: "Well no, you see...."
I guess the Jan 2014 WT answers everything by just saying that Jehovah is really King. (?)
R_O
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USA, Oklahoma | Jehovah's Witness church elder Ronald Lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to 1980s
by jwleaks inusa, oklahoma | jehovah's witness church elder ronald lawrence arrested over sex abuse claims dating back to the 1980's.
a 76-year-old mcalester man was arrested tuesday on 19 counts of sexual abuse after police received claims he molested several children while in a position of authority more than 30 years ago.. mcalester police detectives were alerted to the alleged sexual crimes conducted by ronald lawrence back in august when his first accuser reported abuse at the hands of a jehovah's witness church leader.. a woman now in her 40s told detectives lawrence, an elder at mcalester's kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses, abused her when she was just eight years old, inviting her to his home, where he fondled her and raped her in his bathtub, according to her testimony found in lawrence's arrest warrant, which was issued tuesday.. two other accusers, also in their 40s, then came forward with similar stories of abuse.
both said they were very young, with one telling investigators the molestation took place from the time she was 10 until she was 13 years old.
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Wow, so based on the news reports he supposedly admitted to all of these sins back in 2005 to get reinstated. So he was still disfellowshipped for this disgusting behavior, but today he's serving as an elder??? I wonder how long it took them to reinstate him in 2005, promote him to MS, and then have Holy Spirit direct them to re-appoint him as an elder?
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new watchtower on jw.org Americans don't know their own history
by hoser ini started reading the feb 2014 public watchtower about a war that changed the world.
i had to do a double take in the very first paragraph.. .
"a century ago, millions of young men left the security of their homes and went off to war.
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RO said-
Haha...I saw you're thread title and expected to open it, read an example in the Watchtower demonstrating that Americans don't know their own history...followed by your observation of how ironic that would be since most J-dubs don't know the real history of the Organization TM .
Shouldn't this one (sung by Brother Sam Cooke), be included the official JW Song Book, the religious anthem for legions of home-schooled publishers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNO72aCnVr0
I love it! (oops...looks like I needed more coffee this morning..."you're" "your")
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new watchtower on jw.org Americans don't know their own history
by hoser ini started reading the feb 2014 public watchtower about a war that changed the world.
i had to do a double take in the very first paragraph.. .
"a century ago, millions of young men left the security of their homes and went off to war.
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Haha...I saw you're thread title and expected to open it, read an example in the Watchtower demonstrating that Americans don't know their own history...followed by your observation of how ironic that would be since most J-dubs don't know the real history of the Organization TM .
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First post
by thedog1 inthis is a very strange thing for me to do.
i have been an active witness for over 25 years.
i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.
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"...so maybe I will just use the line I have used sometimes in the past, ' our understanding now is...'"
I made a decision several years ago to never say something from the stage or in comment that I do not personally believe in. You could always just "call a spade, a spade" and say, "The Governing Body now teaches...". That way, your not forcing yourself to state YOU believe a teaching/interpretation when you really don't. But since it's factually accurate, no one should be able to criticize what you're saying.
(Now that the GB claims to make up the entire membership of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave Class", I've completely stopped using the term and just refer to them as "The Governing Body." On occassion when someone starts throwing around the term left and right, I reply "Oh, you mean the Governing Body?" They get a really uncomfortable look on their face and change the subject because suddenly it makes it sound like they're worshipping men.)
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Home schooled witness kids
by stillin insorry if i'm stepping on any toes here, but i haven't seen anything positive about home-schooling...at all.
the notion is that parents are taking advantage of the formative years to inculcate more worthwhile values while protecting their kids from worldly influences.
they end up with lazy, socially inept, illiterate duds who haven't a clue.
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The only kids that I ever knew who were home schooled came from UBER-spiritual J-dub families. They all decided to start home schooling them during middle school (around 12 years old). In every single case, each kid went from giving their experience about home schooling and spending a lot of time in field service at meetings and assemblies to getting into drugs, getting disfellowshipped, and in two cases, getting knocked up by gang members/drug dealers. One or two eventually made their way back, but the rest of them disappeared into a disfunctional, below-the-poverty-line existence.
There isn't a single J-dub I know who was home schooled that never got DF'd or who can successfully support themselves or a family as an adult.
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Do You Often See JWs Out In The Ministry?
by minimus ini used to always see them preaching.
now, it seems as though they rarely are around.
the only witnesses i see, every once in a while, are the hispanic ones..
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I've lived in my current location for several years (not in my congregation's territory) and have never once seen any JWs in my neighborhood, let alone at my door. I've never even seen any signs of them (old mags, tracts, etc.). I'm curious whether I'll get one of the new Kingdom News tracts jammed in my door.