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  2013 Drama: "Show Yourself Attentive"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the first of three "dramas" this dc, and i have to say, it was one of the weirdest dramas ever.

  i won't go through all the details.

  maybe someone else wants to throw in their 2c.. it starts out with two men standing on the "beach" talking, but it took me awhile to figure out what in the hell was going on.

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  MrFreeze

  My sister is in this drama apparently as the 12 year old girl. They asked me to go... I gave some excuses for why I couldn't go.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Curse of Music.

  by donny in

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  jehovahs witnesses and the curse of music.. .

  i was inspired to write this after listening to a recent podcast of the thinking atheist by seth andrews.

  as many of you know, seth was a devout christian who not only loved contemporary christian music but was one of the hosts of a popular morning show on kxoj in tulsa, oklahoma in the 1990s.

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  MrFreeze

  I can't believe there were brothers/sisters who listened to Kingdumb Maladies in their cars. I just know they were listening to those evil Beatles when nobody else was in their car.

  There were only a few people I knew that were very strict about music.
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  Funny experiences while a JW

  by donny in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  do any of you have any funny experiences while you were part of the jw machine?

  back around 1986 i was the ministerial servant in charge of running the sound board in the kingdom hall for our congregation.

  we were the last ones to meet in the hall on weekdays (friday) and the first ones to meet on sunday.

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  MrFreeze

  I remember during one of our spring cleanings an older brother volunteered to mow the lawn. He went around back and when he came back into the front he had no shirt on. The moobs were strong with this one. Elder yelled at him "Brother G! Put your shirt back on!"
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  At what point in the story did WT get it wrong, went off at a tangent?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking at the bible narrative now, with open mind, the talking snake and all, it is a poorly contrived story.

  all these clever people picking up and adding to the thread, the fabric its intriguing, certainly a valued literary work.

  fiction.. using this story wt has woven another, parallel account that you would expect to harmonize with it, and hopefully attempt to connect with reality.. in your thinking, where did wt become unhinged, drifted off into total detachment?.

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  MrFreeze

  It is funny that when it comes to birthdays and holidays they want you to look at the origin. They use the example in the Babble Teach book that if you found a piece of candy in the gutter, you wouldn't clean it off and eat it. Yet, for some reason, we aren't allowed to look at the origin of the WT.
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  I know this sounds crazy but, what if?

  by earthfire in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i've been thinking about my jw family members a lot lately, especially since i just saw them a couple of weeks ago at my youngest sisters wedding.

  with all the current animosity towards apostates that seems to be more aggressive than usual it hit me when i saw this posted on fb today.

  would it be possible for the gb to demand that jw's kill apostates?

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  MrFreeze

  Ha! No they wouldn't do that. The JW religion is not about the Bible. It's about controlling people and making money.
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  Since you've left, are you still good friends with your bestest JW buddies?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it possible that someone has a jw friend who's very active in the congregation, knows you don't believe it anymore, and is still your friend?

  i'm at the point where word is getting out that i'm not going to meetings anymore, and friends ask me if they'll be seeing me at the ca and i tell them i'm not going.

  they want to know why, and what they can do to encourage me.

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  MrFreeze

  I still talk to a couple of them. Occasionally see them, maybe have a meal or a drink with them. The problem is I actually like them so I don't want to let them go. They must think there is still a chance to get me back to meetings or they would have not bothered with me anymore I think.
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  Can't be myself

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  [endif]i had a diner with the neighbors... they don't know i'm a jw cause i don't tell people anymore about it.

  somehow, the topic of cults came up and one of my neighbors said that the jw require 10% of their income to go to the church.

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  MrFreeze

  I feel the same way you do. I'm all for Jehovah's Witness religion bashing but I like it to be based on The Truth. (Get it, The Truth, did you see what I did there?)
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  "Do not be called teachers"--Doesn't Jesus OUTLAW all organized religion?

  by humbled in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jw's and other churches all set up housekeeping in different theological areas.

  some one person can't believe any more what their church is saying, gets a different "take" on god, and......starts trying to convince others to follow them and everything they teach.. nothing new about that.

  but why are so many of us blind to this scenario: we allow that some people get to contemplate other thoughts and others are not allowed.only some lead and everyone else must follow or be thrown out.

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  MrFreeze

  Isidore, Pascal's Wager is the most flawed reason for religious belief that there is.

  You missed the point of what I said. There is no more reason to believe that Vishnu or Zeus exists than there is the Judeo-Christian god.
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  Ok ladies help me out, coupons, does it make sense to spend $5. in gas to save .50 cents?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  because it is on sale doesn,t mean it,s a saving, 5lbs of.

  prunes is not a good deal.

  wouldn,t it be more economocal.

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  MrFreeze

  If you are going to spending the money on it anyway, then it makes sense. Otherwise, don't go out of your way.
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  Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

  by Sam Whiskey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

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  MrFreeze

  Hearing someone say that Christianity is what helped them is a waste of time to me.