Thanks, Alan. I couldn't remember all of those details. :-)
jukief
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The Dynamics of online Apostaworld: the History
by Bas ini've been really interested in this myself for a while as the online apostacommunity has grown large over the last couple of years.. as most of you probably realize, the internet has been instrumental for apostates to hook up and make a virtual fist at the watchtower, the turbulent history the online apostacommunity might interest you alot.
it interests me.. as i'm not someone that was here from the beginning, i'd really like to hear the stories of the oldtimers, the first apostates to hook up through the net, the stories from the first boards and sites that were apostate and the evolution of the apostacommunity after that.
i'm asking people that have been involved since at least 2002 or before to share their stories and views and things that stirred their emotions.
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The Dynamics of online Apostaworld: the History
by Bas ini've been really interested in this myself for a while as the online apostacommunity has grown large over the last couple of years.. as most of you probably realize, the internet has been instrumental for apostates to hook up and make a virtual fist at the watchtower, the turbulent history the online apostacommunity might interest you alot.
it interests me.. as i'm not someone that was here from the beginning, i'd really like to hear the stories of the oldtimers, the first apostates to hook up through the net, the stories from the first boards and sites that were apostate and the evolution of the apostacommunity after that.
i'm asking people that have been involved since at least 2002 or before to share their stories and views and things that stirred their emotions.
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jukief
The first group of ex-JWs that I'm aware of got acquainted back in the early 90s on a Usenet Newsgroup called talk.religion.misc. A group of about eight or ten of us got friendly there and started emailing each other. We were soon cc'ing each and the cc list kept getting bigger, so a gal in the group set up a listserv for us. This became the philia mailing list. There were a dozen or so of us founding members. The group grew until it had hundreds of members. By then the original members were, for the most part, pretty disgusted with how the group had turned out (lots of infighting), so most of us left. But by then the Web was coming along and forums started popping up. I wish I could remember all the early members of philia. There was AlanF and me, my sister, the Norwegian contingent, some friends (from Scotland, Hong Kong, various parts of the US...) who no longer have much to do with the ex-JW community. Can anyone from the old days remember? Julie F
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30 Years Ago Today, 1975, Terror Soon To Come..
by Englishman infor everyone who went to see "jaws"!
yup!
it's 30 years ago today since the film was released upon an unsuspecting public.
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jukief
Oh, I remember that, all right. The night before Jaws came out, I had my first baby--after a long and difficult labor during which my JW husband went home and took a nap (he got to the hospital just in time to see the birth, then went home again). The next night I expected him to spend some time with me. But he decided to spend the evening instead driving 60 miles to another city to watch Jaws. Took me 10 more years to do it, but I finally got rid of that bastard. :D My "baby" turned 30 a couple of days ago. Boy, do I feel old!
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2005 Barbecue Is Definitely On!
by Englishman insaturday seems to be much preferred over sunday, so this years bbq will be held on saturday, july 9th, commencing around 2 pm.
location is our home in weston super mare.
as usual, the day will be very boozy and proceedings will conclude in the waverley pub.
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jukief
I've seen Kent quite a few times, but I've never had to witness him singing and dancing, thank god. Watching him pilot a boat while inebriated was enough of a thrill for me. :-)
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The Best of Brits.
by Englishman injust curious... we had a poll here in the uk as to who was the most famous brit of all time.
i was so underwhelmed that i can't remember who even won it.
it wasn't churchill, that's for sure.
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jukief
Mike Hooper, without a doubt!
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Ok now ..what up with the English?
by hillbilly in.
you wont discuss your own politics with out a browbeating from old hill.... but eman starts a thread about the us second amendment to it's consitution and all sorts of brits chime in.. for the record... i really dont care about your big-eared prince and his "gnawer"* new bride.... why do ya'all care about my guns?.
*gnawer.. a woman so ugly that if one woke up in bed (after a drunken night) with her they would gnaw their arm off to escape...rather than chance waking her in the daylight.
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jukief
All I want to say is that I absolutely ADORE the English.
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What movies make you think of the Borg?...
by Hecklerboy ini was watching a great sci-fi movie the other day (chronicles of riddick) and there was a phrase in the movie that jumped out at me.
a soldier was being promoted and he said the phrase "obedience without question, loyalty till underverse comes".
i thought "wow, just replace underverse with armageddon and that sound just like the witnesses".
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jukief
I think Pleasantville is the one movie that most closely describes what it's like to be an apostate in a JW world. A great movie in its own right, but the similarities to dub-think are really amazing.
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jukief
We're in Fort Collins.
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You know you are from Portland when....
by Xander inokay, now the *sad* think about this list is that everything on it is absolutely 100% true with no exaggeration or hyperbole.
(if you don't get it....well, you've obviously never been to portland): .
you know you are from portland when?.you throw an aluminum can in the trash and feel guilty.
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jukief
Hey, I used to work for Tektronix, too! I sure do miss Portland. But not Beaverton. :D
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Are Circuit Overseers Stuck in Their Jobs?
by metatron induring a recent c.o.
visit, the latest itinerant from the society seemed a bit subdued as he talked about the difficulties.
of his employment.
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jukief
My brother is a CO. He's 46 years old. He was an elder for almost 20 years, and he was a regular pioneer for about 10 years before they appointmented him CO. In the last two years before he was appointed, he served as a temporary CO to fill in for people from time to time. When his son graduated from high school, he went off to Bethel for a couple of years. Now he's engaged to be married but is also pioneering full time. Ah, such a spiritual family! He owned his own home and had a regular job. I had to admire him for going down to 30 hours a week at work so he could pioneer. He's pretty sincere, but I also happen to think he's a self-righteous bastard. He's hard and cold, too. I don't envy the poor brothers in his circuit. Anyway, my brother has a cushy set-up, especially for a first-time appointment. His assignment is a large southern city. He doesn't have to travel outside the city, so he has a duplex where he lives year round (I don't know whether the Society owns it or the local circuit--it's not attached to a KH) that the local brothers remodeled before he moved in (new carpet, etc.). It's large and quite nice. He's also got his brand new car, which gets replaced every three years. Health insurance, two weeks of vacation--it's just like a real job, except for the pay. The thing is, though, that every week the local brothers give him quite a bit of cash. I think he's a lot better off financially than he was when he was working and making a house payment. He's doing so well, in fact, that he and his wife are going to the Bahamas for their vacation--all paid for by the local brothers' contributions. What a racket, eh? He's a lot happier now because he was getting to hate his job and it was physically taxing. He couldn't had done it until old age, but he can do this job until he drops dead, and he probably will. But if he wants to "retire," he'll probably have it made because his circuit is in a pretty afluent city and he's making connections with lots of rich brothers. I don't think he has anything to worry about. Plus, because he worked so many years, he has a lot paid into social security (assuming it's still solvent by the time he gets old).