here is an apologist view of why there is suffering.. answer c. just didn't cut it for me.. basically he is saying "everything god did turned out to sin"; eg.
especially when that potential goes bad in every case"?.
christian apologetics & research ministry www.carm.org.
And yes Jehovah loves us even though we are dirt. Unconditional love which is the greatest love of all.
Utter bullshit. In what way is your monster-God showing unconditional love? When he wipes out 6 billion humans for not being JWs?? I'd call being a JW a 'condition'. Otherwise you've got Jehovah saying in effect, "OK you worldlings, I love you, and because of that I have to kill you. " Yeah right. Can't you see the baloney you are typing here? Use your head.
these were taken on february 11, 2002 (five months after the tragedy).. this day, they pulled the bodies of 5 victims from the rubble.. i wish the photos were larger but the larger photos eventually turn into red x's.. reflect and enjoy!.
the building's that you see did not suffer as much damage as the other building's (shown above) that were to the left of the wtc.
a closer shot of the smaller buildings that are shown in one of the photos above.... .
maybe the webmaster noticed all us unauthorized viewers and shut off access.
these were taken on february 11, 2002 (five months after the tragedy).. this day, they pulled the bodies of 5 victims from the rubble.. i wish the photos were larger but the larger photos eventually turn into red x's.. reflect and enjoy!.
the building's that you see did not suffer as much damage as the other building's (shown above) that were to the left of the wtc.
a closer shot of the smaller buildings that are shown in one of the photos above.... .
Still seein X's here
foxnews is promising a story about jw's and solicitation after this commercial.
I thought this thead was about Jehovah's knockers.. I figured they'd have to be pretty huge.
this is something i've been wondering about lately due to personal experiences.
my mother and stepfather (she's a jw, he is not) have been having some marital problems of late and instead of seeking out the advice of a marriage counselor or some similar specialist in the field, they have chosen to seek help through one of the elders in her congregation.
i'm completely surprised by this, yet i know i shouldn't be.
I mean, if you've got a problem with your heart you see a cardiologist, not a podiatrist.
Don't you mean a cardiologist, not a window washer? A cardiologist and a podiatrist are both a type of doctor. What does an elder have in common with a professional counsellor?
Q: From a JW perspective, what would make an elder be considered good at this type of advice?
A: He knows how to use the bound volume index. Yeah real helpful.
here is an apologist view of why there is suffering.. answer c. just didn't cut it for me.. basically he is saying "everything god did turned out to sin"; eg.
especially when that potential goes bad in every case"?.
christian apologetics & research ministry www.carm.org.
I am convinced that all of mankind's suffering and misery has its roots in mortality.
dear ken:.
i hope your brother in law is faring well.
you asked about evil the other day and i am now getting back to you on that subject.. i cannot prove that god exists.
It does not say that God brought futile existence upon humanity. It instead says that God allowed humanity to suffer a futile existence.
Is this like saying "I didn't light my children on fire officer. Instead I *allowed* them to play with matches. I didn't force the matches on them sir."
i went to a dinner party tonight that had about 100 people, all non jws.
laughter and merriment and a good time was had by all.. these were good honest hard working people who have no clue as to what jws believe or that they are going to be judged according to whether they believe like witnesses do.. it impressed on my mind just how unknown witnesses are and how little people pay any attention to their message.. witnesses think they are the center of the universe.
non-witnesses don't even think about them at all.. joel
DoNotProvoke:
I would say this applies to you as much as anyone:
you have a biased view point and only say what "tickles" your ears.
can someone pls help.
is mothers day (& fathers day) celebrated by the jw's?
if it is not, can you provide a scriptural reason for the decision.
you are not allowed to put anyone on a pedestal
What about Secretary's day? Or when take a work mate out to lunch or for drinks because they are leaving your firm? everyone is paying for their food and drink. I don't see much difference.
if there are people leaving in the multitudes...do the wtbts still need so many funds..... i mean printing would go down...kingdom hall costs etc....do they need as much money?
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so do you think they will eva make an announcement asking that donations be kept to a minimum....seeing as they have said in the past that jehovah provides them with enough to keep the ministry going and nothing more so it cannot be used and abused in other ways...... or.....
My first gut feeling was that VA was trying to disprove something in reverse. As in, "If there really WAS a mass exodus then the WTBS wouldn't need so much money. since the WTBS has not said stop sending money, they must need money and therefore there is no mass exodus. PHEW!!!"
Incidentally who here has ever said there is a mass exodus? I think most here would simply agree that more people than ever (still likely a small number) are deciding to leave the WTBS because of the internet.
