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  since i sent my DA letter

  by jurs in

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  things have certainly been eventful since i sent my da letter.

  it hasn't been announced at the meeting yet, but plenty seem to know!!!!!

  monday a pioneer sister called me.

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  jurs

  dear jt
  i wrote the letter for several reasons
  1. I'm incredibly angry and it felt good.
  2. i didn't want to be disfellowshipped. i want the congregation to know i left because i wanted to not because i had to.
  3. Right now i can't seem to tell eneough people that its a cult!!! and it feels good knowing it will get back to them.
  4. I just realized i gave up 9 years of my life . (i quit living before my baptism 7 years ago.)I took away so much from my kids that the guilt is unreal.
  I'll be damn if i walk away quietly!!!!!!!JURS
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  since i sent my DA letter

  by jurs in

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  things have certainly been eventful since i sent my da letter.

  it hasn't been announced at the meeting yet, but plenty seem to know!!!!!

  monday a pioneer sister called me.

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  things have certainly been eventful since i sent my DA letter. it hasn't been announced at the meeting yet, but plenty seem to know!!!!! Monday a pioneer sister called me. we weren't especially close but our kids were. she called about me going with her on a study (i already knew she knew , but she was pretending like she didn't know)I knew this because my kids were informed that day at school, they could never play at their house again. I called her on it!!! i asked why the invitation when she darn well knew i DA myself. I was already pretty mad at her because i heard that she called my kids spoiled brats, just a few weeks before. I let her know i knew and said a good riddance to them all!!! Yesterday she was at my house bright and early to apologize. she wanted to know why i DA'd myself. i explained the hypocrisy i saw with elders. the double standards i.e. An elders family can get away with things others can't. unfriendly congregations, strange superstitions, (smurfs ect.) unbiblical rules. the burden of all the rules and what are they hiding??? why the forbidden material???? she was speechless. she couldn't answer any of it and admitted so. she didn't want to see apostate material. i didn't push it. I told her i was furious with the organization because they robbed me of trust. not just in them but all religions!!! This sister use to always get on my nerves. but yesterday when i was talking to her i felt like we bonded. she felt many of those things too and shared her painful experiences. we were on the same page. only i disobeyed and looked into apostate literature. it ended up a sad parting. i would have enjoyed now being her friend. she always seemed self rightous and pompous but yesterday she was as lost as i was. it was interesting and sad. ..............also i work in a elementary school kitchen JW kids are asking me if i'm going to go to meetings. they never do this. the word spreads fast... JURS
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  "Well Rounded JW Kids"

  by LDH in

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  well, my parents (from ny) came out to visit a couple of weeks ago, no notice or anything (they live 3,000 miles away) and knocked on my door on a friday evening.. as hubby was not home from work yet, and i was laying down from yet another migraine, i got extremely agitated when the doorbell rang.

  now, i don't open my door for anyone when i'm not feeling well.

  to make a long story short, it was my parents, who spent about 6 days.

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  I can see why you feel drained!!!!! be glad she lives far away...JURS
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  Did the elders keep secret files on us?

  by XJWBill in

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  howdy all,.

  i've recently discovered all the great ex-jw sites on the internet, and i've enjoyed reading other people's stories.

  but a few passing comments in some stories have made me wonder: do or did the elders keep files on individuals in each congregation?

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  I've wondered that too. I can't answer your question , but one time when i had gone to the elders to turn myself and another sister in for a wrong doing, the elders took NOTES. I have a feeling that it will be in my file. JURS
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  Smurfs

  by Kismet in

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  by now most of us have heard the urban legends of smurfs vs. jw's.. such as smurf dolls walking down kingdom hall aisles or strangling jw babies (replaced dingos eating them in australia lol).. the initial problem jw's had with smurfs was that on the tv show they were conjuring up spells, later more ummm "enlightened" jw viewers started questioning a community of all males with only one female (smurfette).. so jw's felt that it was not appropriate for jw children to watch shows about magic.. it is this same reasoning that has scared some away more recently rom harry potter novels and pokemon.. it was stupid when it involved smurfs and is just as stupid now.

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  but there ya have it, the main reasons (if you can call them that...) that jw's hate smurfs and developed such wild stories to enforce their opinion.. kismet

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  thanks kismet. JURS
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  ARE AVERAGE JWs DECEPTIVE?

  by Amazing in

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  i ask this because on this and other forums that have a large share of former jws, our stated experiences and encounters during and after our jw membership seem to reflect that the wts and its body of believers are most corrupt.

  likewise, those never associated who read our posts may get the impression that even visiting a kingdom hall may result in serious negative events.. i believe that it is important to remind everyone that the average jw is a generally good person.

  most try to live good lives, act on their beliefs, and promote what they feel is the truth.

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  what a great topic!!! i consider myself to have been the average JW with good intentions. when i screwed up i always immediately went to the elders. i stayed away from gossip ect. ect. ect. but was i really honest?? i would have sincerely answered yes a month ago but now i recognize i wasn't. Alan f made a point that fit me. when i studied i didn't understand some of what i was being taught. I didn't believe some of it but we'd go on to the next topic and i wouldn't pursue doubts. i never wanted to be a witness. it was too much work. i guess it was laziness. perhaps it was too much work for me to pursue doubts so therefore i went along with it. its so complex. i started out with certain doubts. some how in a hazy way i came to believe 100%. then a sereies of certain circumstances happened and my initial doubts came back. why i never settled those doubts in the beginning i can't answer. It wasn't like wanted to be a JW. i wasn't raised in the truth. i had no pressure to join. i had no fear of DF when i was studying. why i went with the flow i can't anwser. JURS
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  Smurfs

  by Kismet in

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  by now most of us have heard the urban legends of smurfs vs. jw's.. such as smurf dolls walking down kingdom hall aisles or strangling jw babies (replaced dingos eating them in australia lol).. the initial problem jw's had with smurfs was that on the tv show they were conjuring up spells, later more ummm "enlightened" jw viewers started questioning a community of all males with only one female (smurfette).. so jw's felt that it was not appropriate for jw children to watch shows about magic.. it is this same reasoning that has scared some away more recently rom harry potter novels and pokemon.. it was stupid when it involved smurfs and is just as stupid now.

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  but there ya have it, the main reasons (if you can call them that...) that jw's hate smurfs and developed such wild stories to enforce their opinion.. kismet

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  Hi kismet,
  shortly after i was baptized i heard about a troll (dolls) running down the kingdom hall. I also heard about smurfs. I about died when i read a posting on this web site about smurfs. I never realized so many congregations from all over heard and believed such nonsense!!!!I have a question for you kismet. in a chat room i learned you were once an elder. Do elders read apostate information?? Lets say you find that someone in the congrgation has doubts because of reading apostate material, can the elder go over such material to dispute such claims and calm the persons doubts????
  Thanks JURS
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  Need to vent... advice is welcome

  by SlayerLayer in

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  when i was 13, all of the other kids in my congregation were taking home school, getting them out of the "bad association" in public school.

  they talked me into it too.. of course, at 13 trying to get me to actually do the schooling was a feat that no one could master.. i worked for a brother in the cong.

  full time, and never finished the schooling.. so...flash forward.

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  Congradulations!!! I'm happy for you! JURS
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  Open letter to my family

  by DannyBear in

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  dear family,.

  well i suppose a better salutation would be, dear former family,.

  since i have only briefly seen sister bp on two or three occasions in the last 20 years.

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  Hugs to you from JURS
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  just needed to share

  by jurs in

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  i cant the events of the past few weeks.

  a brief summary for those who don't know.

  i've been a jw 7 years .

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  jurs

  i cant the events of the past few weeks. a brief summary for those who don't know. i've been a JW 7 years . started doubting recently. wrote and mailed a DA letter. the elders hould get it tomorrow. Today i called my best friend in the truth. i didn't want her to hear it from gossip. we are in different congegations but news travels fast. By the way i should mention her husband is an elder. My sister friend is a closet alcoholic and lives a double life. Her elder husband knows and hides it. to give you a little history this sister and i last year went to the ice capades. before we got there we went for a few drinks and i got very drunk. Because i had no inhabitions i told her i knew she had a problem. It's very obvious and people in the congrgation (i use to be in this congregation) know. she confided in me about her drinking and said for me not to tell she would rather be dead. in fact she threatened suicide. Being the awful cult member that i was i went to the elders in my congregation and told. i told because i didn't want to be blood guilty and i thought it would get her the help she needed. while with elders other sins popped up. this sister and i had gone dancing at bars without our husbands. anyhow i got disiplined. a mild reproof no auxillery pioneeing and off the school. i talked to her elder husband and he said he was not telling his congregation elders because it was none of their buisness. Fast forward to today. I called my friend and told her i DA myself. I apologized to her for breaking a confidence and why i did. By the way she was drunk on the phone and just got out of jail for having a D.U.I. she told me her hubby won't say anything. I told her i'd understand if she doesn't ever talk to me again. she said she'd call me she won't get disfellowshipped for it. It was very sad. She can't get help and has to hide her problem. I'm so angry at her husband. Disfellowshipping keeps people from getting the help they need!!!!Just wanted to talk and only you out there can understand> Thanks JURS