Posts by justhuman

later on in the 90's while i still attended once in a while, people were starting to be less zealous and were starting to put their needs before those of the kingdoms.

people started to buy houses, instead of living in apartements, they were buying nicer cars, taking vacations far away, and mostly, the women started to work, to help pay for the better life style they were living.

justhuman

I believe the mood it is the same in all the Western Countries...

JW's became like a Club...They seem that they got tired hearing the same thing all the time:

ARMAGEDON IT IS NEAR, WE ARE AT THE DOOR OF THE NEW SYSTEM

In Greece the only increase we had was from the foreiner workers(Shri-Lanka, India, Albania)Without them there is no increase...

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What Did You Find To Be The Most Confusing Belief Of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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jehovah's witnesses certainly have some unique beliefs and some are very, very confusing.

anything that you never quite understood?

justhuman

Well lets see....

The famous 1914 doctrine

The 144.000 Saints

Their strange way of explaining Revelation

The Faithfull and Discret Slave

Resurection

Soul

Jesus

WELL THEY ARE INDEED IN A DEEP CONFUSION

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Comments You Will Not Year at the 1-11-04 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 1-11-04 wt study

"take exquisite delight in jehovah," david said, "and he will give you the requests of your heart.

(pedophiles are protected by a two-witness rule in the wts.

justhuman

I love your comments blondy....

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

justhuman

Scholar

IN MY PREVIOUS POST I HAVE POST THE BIBLE EVIDENCE REGARDING 587...WHY DON'T YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT...OR YOU WILL TRY TO IGNORE IT LIKE WT DOES????

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How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark?

by hooberus in

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many skeptics assert that the bible must be wrong, because they claim that the ark could not possibly have carried all the different types of animals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/cen_v19n2_animals_ark.asp

justhuman

Actually there was a flood and Noahs flood it is a copy of an older Sumerian Myth the story of Gilgamesh....It is not possible to put all those animals and give them food for all those days. It takes a great deal of efford to keep alive all those animals with food...

Because there were earth changes earth was flooded many times, especially when the ice age finished.

In the region of Mesopotamia(Iran, Iraq, Turkey) there was a flood that did occured before 5500 years, and that is the flood of Noah...

It was a regional flood and the animals that Noah put in the Ark there were Animals that live in that area like Lions, Tigers, horses, dogs, cats, rabits, not many spieces but also small comparing to elephants, hippos, and some other that they live in Africa...

Actually we have in our Greek mythology similar myth (like everywere in the world)of a flood. The only difference it is that we have a story of 3 floods. Gods destroyed the earth 3 times with the flood because people have sin.

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

justhuman

You will set the Elder in to trouble!!! 607 date it is wrong and when he finds that, then WT has no foundations to stand..everything it is related on that date according to their doctrine...

Scholar

You have NO foundation regarding 607. The only ones that support that date are JW's . Look at Encyclopedias like Britanica, or Archeological books and the date they point out for the destruction of Jerusalim is 587.

Even it is against the Bible Chronology, and the WT in order to support their foundation they go against the Bible...

Just only one example: Zechariah 1:12 an angel says: Oh Jehovah of armies, how long will you yourself not show mercy to Jerusalim and to the cities of Judah, whom you have denounced these seventy years?

Also Zechariah 7:3 Shall I weep in the fifth month practicing an abstinence, the way I have done these 70 years...

WT admits that that was the year 517 the second year of Darius the King.

So if we add the 70 years of weeping of the Isralites we come to the year 587 that Jerusalim was destroyed.

Also the 70 years are for Babylon not for Jerusalim...Daniel 5: 25-27 says:Mene mene thekel parsin...God has numbered your days of your kingdomn and they are over...The days of the Babylonian started at 607 when they win Assyria and ended at 587 when they were occupied by persian king Kyros...

Also Jerusalim had 3 deportations with King Nabu...and after the destruction still people were living at the ruins of Jerusalim...

Jeremiah 29:4-10 Says that the should stay at Babylon(Jeramiah send a letter to the Jews in exile in Babylon 10 years before the final destruction)and he told them to stay there have kids, build houses,...in accord with the fulfilling of 70 years at(for)Babylon I shall turn my attention to you people and bring you back to this place..

So this words of God they would have a meaning if the 70 years start to be counted from the first deportation of Jews in Babylon, other wise there was no need to send this letter if the 70 years start 10 years after...

So Scholar next time back your proves with real solid evidence...

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Divine Plan of the Ages - Sundisk? - CT Russell Roessel???

by Celtic in

i'm reading presently charles taze russell's the divine plan of the ages 1889 edition.. a question.

today, would ct russell be allowed to be an acceptable member of the organisation he started?.

what was ct russell's background before he started the watchtower society?

justhuman

I have a different opinion regarding Russell, and I believe that he was influenced from occult. Although I we don't have the clear evidence we do have a LOT OF FACTS prooving that he was influenced by occult and the freemasons.

Pyramid worship it is an occult religion (masons do have similar teachings like Russell and symbols like The Sun God Ra and the All Seeing Eye. You can see that at the U.S 1 dollar). So the question it is clear: Why would someone use Masonic symbols and teachings if he was not a Mason or support the masonic ideas?

Why Russell is buried in a Masonic Cementry with the masonic pyramid and the capstone of the All Seeing Eye?

Russell has admided in a puplic talk that he WAS a Free mason. You can find that statement from Freeminds.org.

Russell print a book called Angels and Women a story of a fallen Angel(Demon)that he told it to a medium. So if that it is not occult influence my friend then what it is?

Many teachings of the Watchtower were influenced from pyramidology and occult, plus the subliminal messages that can be found in the WT puplications. Live for Ever Book, Revelation, are great examples of the subliminal messages of the WT.

So you have another opinion regarding Russell...the choice is yours...

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So, what's stopping you from going to the hall?

by JH in

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2 elders came to my door today, at noon sharp, and i opened the door to let them in.

they didn't want to come in, so they stood at the door and asked me, "what's stopping you from coming to the hall"?

they only come once a year and always around christmas time.

justhuman

APOSTATES FROM THIS FORUM !!! :)

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Feb 15 Watchtower: Apostates - Guard Against Deception

by truthseeker in

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feb 15 watchtower: apostates - guard against deception

don't you wish this were the real title of the 2nd study article?

well, it is, minus the word apostate.

justhuman

I like WT articles against APOSTATES

If you REALLY wanna be an APOSTATE read OLD WT puplications

There is so much APOSTATE staff in it!!!!(Pyramidology, Occult, dates of false prophesy, 1914, 1919, 1925, 1975 and so on...)

So by their own words the following 4 President's will be apostates:

1.Russell because of Masonic teachings, and Pyramidology, and Occult believes

2.Rutherford also for the same reasons above

3.Knorr for teaching that the end will come in 1975 and for the Organ Transplants

4.Franz for teaching that the end will come before the year 2000 and that the separation work was done during that time.