Can't say I remember. I was too busy recovering from being dragged into the world with a pair of salad spoons.
Cicatrix
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#1 Song on the Day your were Born
by JH inhttp://www.joshhosler.biz/numberoneinhistory/selectmonth.htm.
on the day i was born, this song was #1 .
"theme from 'a summer place'" by percy faith .
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What is your favorite DUB catch phrases (sayings,) ?
by PinTail inthese are just a few: how about this one, brothers the time left is reduced", do not take liberties with the sisters", charley calls", brothers and sister do not mark on the sides of your bibles", do you have secret sins", do not be saving seats", you will not be used if you wear a beard," parents are your children setting with you", are you buying out the oppertune time for your selfs", only use the motels the society wants you to use", and on and on like cults do.
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Cicatrix
"Beware of independent thinking"
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I saw "knocking"last night--my review
by Junction-Guy inwell thanks to one of the members here at jwd, i was sent a copy of knocking.
i watched it last night with the exception of a small segment that i will finish out today.. .
the actual film itself was a puff piece meant to instill sympathy, and it did that well.
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Cicatrix
The problem with trying to explain to outsiders what the JWs are like is similar to what it is like for someone who is in a controlling relationship with another person. The control is usually aimed at a specific person, and is concealed from outsiders.Often, the controlling person is very personable to everyone else, so if the victim does dare to break the silence, they are often not believed.They even have the ability to turn things around and make it appear that THEY are the victim.Threats and silence tactics are the rule of the day in controlling relationships. For example,notice that the WTS negotiated for a gag rule on the victims who sued them over abuse. The victims in essence had to capitulate to what the WTS had wanted when they were disciplined to begin with (silence to maintain "face" for the society),to receive their settlements.BUT some of us are not taking them to court, and tell anyone who care to listen about our own experience and the WTS tactics.
The only people I've encountered who have even an inkling of what former JWs have gone through are those who have been involved with high control groups, those who have been in abusive or controlling personal relationships, and those who have educated themselves on the issue, such as advocates for the victims.Most others hardly give JWs a passing thought. They usually view them as just a little odd, or as pleasant neighbors they don't know a lot about.
BTW-this isn't just an ex-JW problem. It is a societal one also.
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Recommended Reading
by sweet pea inwhat would be your top list of books that have influenced you to be at the point where you now are in your life?
for me so far it would have to be awaken the giant within by anthony robbins, crisis of conscience/in search of christian freedom by ray franz and understanding cults and mind control by steve hassan.
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The resources on this website were an absolute lifesaver for me
The Road Less Traveled by M Scott Peck
Barbara Grizutti Harrison's online article regarding her experience leaving the WTS
My college textbooks and lectures
"Controlling People: How to Recognize, Understand, and Deal with People Who Try to Control You" by Patricia Evans. It has some chapters dealing with controlling groups. I think she does a good job explaining about how people with a need to control replace another person's authentic self with the controller's fantasy version of that person. All of the articles in the WT about people giving up their artistic hobbies, etc. popped into mind when I read this.
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Major Organization Announcement In October
by Arthur inokay folks,.
i don't know about you, but i am getting a little tired of all of the threads that speculate what the "major announcement" is going to be.
so, i figured we could have some fun with this one.
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Cicatrix
Hmm, a major organisation announcement.
"Happy New (service) Year" to all the JWs;)
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Women sperm
by peacefulpete init was believed by many ancients that women had sperm emissions at orgasm.
(alcmaeon (about 500 b.c.
) believed the sex of a child was determined by whose semen was most abundant.
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Cicatrix
Perhaps it was a simple way to describe chemotaxis of sperm to the ovum, or of the polarity/electrical event which hardens the membrane surrounding the egg and results in the inability of other sperm to penetrate once a sperm has penetrated the zona pellucida (an insurance that it was only Abraham's, and that none of those suitors she had even into her old age, thanks to Abraham fudging the truth about her being his sister, had a chance at being the daddy.
That lil ovum is pretty active itself, and so is the "sperm" of the female reproductive tract, if you will. The male sperm is not able to actually fertilize an ovum until it's in contact with the fluids of the female reproductive tract. This is called capacitation.That ability to mobilize the sperm for fertilization could be just as easily seen as being a woman's "sperm".Ditto the chemicals that attract the sperm to the egg.
Then there's all the tricky issues of implantation, too (just ask women who are struggling with infertility how important that issue is).Implantation issues are more pronounced in older women, but Sarah did just fine, thank you.
While Abraham's seed was of definite importance, so was his wife's reproductive tract's ability to chemically attract that sperm to the ovum, to mobilize that seed so that it could flagellate it's way to said ovum and fertilize it, and her ability to carry the resultant child in her womb.
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Who Was The Number One Musical Group or Singer Of All Time?
by minimus insome say it's the beatles.
they certainly did leave their mark on the world.
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Cicatrix
I'll tell ya when all of time is over;)
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so what are the "anointed" you know/knew like?
by nowisee inthere were two quite old females in my congregation.
sweet.
but then they died.. i met several members of gb.
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Cicatrix
She was sweet, funny, feisty, and inclined to be a bit rebellious toward WTS organisation protocol, lol.She didn't just say she was Christian, she demonstrated it tirelessly. I loved her to pieces.She was the type that if we would have run into each other after I left, she would have talked to me without thinking twice about it.I saw her do it repeatedly with disfellowshipped ones at the hall, and no one said a word to her about it.Not that she would have listened if they had-whenever she didn't want to do something, she just claimed her hearing aid was acting up;).She died shortly after I left, though. Rest in peace Evie:)
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Kuwaiti: 'The terrorist Katrina' is a soldier of Allah'
by Elsewhere init was just a matter of time before someone in the middle east shot his mouth off..... http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/front2453615.183333333.html.
kuwaiti: 'the terrorist katrina' is a soldier of allah' .
special to world tribune.com.
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Cicatrix
"the fruit of Allah's planning, so that [the price of] a barrel of oil will increase further still. By Allah, this is not schadenfreude."
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Thank You World!
by Cicatrix ini just want to offer a huge thank you to all of the countries and individuals from other countries who have stepped forward to offer aid to the victims of katrina.
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Cicatrix
I just want to offer a huge THANK YOU to all of the countries and individuals from other countries who have stepped forward to offer aid to the victims of Katrina.