"On the lighter side, a small rule that really bothered me was telling me I couldn't sit toward the back of the Hall, even when that's where you are most comfortable. So I always obeyed. Yet others always sat there! Not just the latecomers or families with children." LOL-I had the opposite problem. Just imagine trying to keep five little children paying attention when they HAD to sit at the back of the hall and could see all that other interesting stuff that was going on during the meeting:)
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Woman's Chastity Belt Sets Off Airport Security Alarm!
by Pleasuredome inunbelievable http://rense.com/general49/chastity.htm
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Well I hope she has a key:)
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Splenda, the low cal sugar substitute
by Sirius Dogma inmy roommate brought home this new ice cream last night, dreyers no sugar added, fat free chocolate fudge sweetened with splenda.
i was intrigued.
chocolate ice cream with no fat and low cal, how good could this taste?
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Hi Sirius, Why not try buying the Splenda sweetener and using it in something that you know you aren't sensitive to to find out for sure? Malitol can be very problematic in many individuals, and is contained in a lot of "sugar free" products. I can eat Splenda with no problem, but malitol does me in. As far as the warnings go-everything in moderation, I say. According to scientists, foods as innocuous as peanut butter causes problems in laboratory animals.
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Can Someone Please Explain Civil Union to me?
by Cicatrix inwhat exactly is the definition of civil union?
what rights do a civil union afford?
are couples who are joined in a civil union afforded all of the same rights as married couples (ie-insurance benefits, tax breaks, etc.
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Thank you Patio. I figured as much.
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Watchtower Right?
by patio34 init struck me this morning that the recent news that, in general, church-goers vote republican and non-church goers (regularly that is) vote democratic.. if the majority of republicans support president bush and the invasion of iraq and the majority of democrats do not, then it would follow that the majority of church-goers are in favor of the invasion.
and the non-churchers aren't.. what struck me is odd is the watchtower teaching that christians, in general, are inclined to be warlike (a polite term).
then it struck me about the morality of the whole invasion.
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Here are some of the facts: These quotes are are on "tape" and in the archives of all media!!! "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" - Rep Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is is calculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 These were sent to me by my VERY Republican father, lol.
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Watchtower Right?
by patio34 init struck me this morning that the recent news that, in general, church-goers vote republican and non-church goers (regularly that is) vote democratic.. if the majority of republicans support president bush and the invasion of iraq and the majority of democrats do not, then it would follow that the majority of church-goers are in favor of the invasion.
and the non-churchers aren't.. what struck me is odd is the watchtower teaching that christians, in general, are inclined to be warlike (a polite term).
then it struck me about the morality of the whole invasion.
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LOL Well, Phantom Dude, I guess that explains why I'm so mixed up. My father is a Baptist Republican and my step-mom is a Presbyterian Democrat:) My biological mother still thinks like the JWs-that all politics is from "the debil":)
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Can Someone Please Explain Civil Union to me?
by Cicatrix inwhat exactly is the definition of civil union?
what rights do a civil union afford?
are couples who are joined in a civil union afforded all of the same rights as married couples (ie-insurance benefits, tax breaks, etc.
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What exactly is the definition of civil union? What rights do a civil union afford? Are couples who are joined in a civil union afforded ALL of the same rights as married couples (ie-insurance benefits, tax breaks, etc.)? Thanks Cicatrix
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JW Speaks up on Today Show on Behalf of Michael Jackson
by Gretchen956 indid anyone else see the witness who was interviewed on the today show as a friend of the jackson family in support of michael?
in light of all the child abuse mess within the organization you would think that they would stay away from that one.
gretchen
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It figures. Awhile back, I saw an interview in which Firpo Carr, that guy who wrote the books you could get from Stoops about the divine name, also defended him (I have to thank that guy though-his books put it in my head to get a college education). From everything I've read and seen, it seems that the WT policy is to not back off in any manner. They genuinely seem to think they are right.After all, the almighty has ordained them, over all the billions on the planet, to speak for him.
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Well, this kinda got to me ....
by Vivamus inso, today i went looking for curtains and paint-colours for my new house.
(i?m moving) .
and we ( my mum and me) enter this store that i have visited years ago, and liked.
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LOL! The same thing happened to me back in November. Our car insurance lapsed because we weren't making enough to be able to afford the payments, so we ended up having to use one of those "high risk" insurance places. Well, the lady was real nice-she even let me bring in the money that I was short on the next week, just so my policy wouldn't lapse. Well, I had class, so my daughter volunteered to make the payment for me, and came home laughing. She said "Mom, did you happen to notice the Bible stories book and the Great Teacher book that your insurance lady has displayed in her offfice?" I actually hadn't-how the heck did I miss those, lol. I wonder if she would've trusted an "apostate" to bring her the money if she'd have known?:)
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Incense Burning - Geez, These Guys Have a Rule For Everything!
by worldlygirl inthere seems to be a problem with incense burning now!
this is from the watchtower website: http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2003/6/1/article_01.htm.
a) they are running out of crap to publish.
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I have just recently left after 20 +years and it really seemed to me that they were pushing so many over the edge with more and more extreme views and what seemed like senile reasoning on everything--everything was seeming to be more and more out of wack. You hit the nail on the head, Cyber-sista! The last time I set foot in a Kingdom Hall, I had an all out panic attack. After I was in a car accident that totalled my car, my doctor and physical therapist perscribed yoga exercises to help me recover. I bought a tape in another town and did them. It was the only thing that brought me any kind of pain relief for a long time. Not surprisingly, when I made the decision to leave the organisation, my pain level dropped about 50%. Isn't funny how they continually use 1 Cor. 10:26 to make it look as though they are giving their members some kind of choice? Conscience matter, yeah, right.