Thought I'd crash the party too. Born in God's own country, Barrow-in-Furness. My grandfather still takes mags regularly! Now in Oz - Britain's best idea ever! And all Americans are freaks except Buffy fans!
Jayne
hello britains .
i am trying to get as many uk posters to sign in.
so post up please, whether you love the queen's corgis or think they should be nationalised!.
Thought I'd crash the party too. Born in God's own country, Barrow-in-Furness. My grandfather still takes mags regularly! Now in Oz - Britain's best idea ever! And all Americans are freaks except Buffy fans!
Jayne
oh ... sitting there ... waiting for the interminable end of the dreary and elongated rambling of someone with no public speaking skills at all ... please end ... anything to break this monotony is welcome ... even singing about 'christian youths' would be more welcome ... music pllllllease ... ahah 'now brothers, we will move into the service meeting with song number 47' ... and out blares ... guns'n'roses 'black leather' .... what cd would you like to sneak in there huh ?
The Grouch, by Green Day.
I was a young boy that had big plans. Now I'm just a shitty old man. I don't have fun and I hate everything. The world owes me so f... you. Glory days don't mean shit to me, I drank a six pack of apathy. Life's a bitch and so am I. The world owes me so f... you. Wasted youth and a fistful of ideals. I had a young and optimistic point of view. Wasted youth and a fistful of ideals. I had a young and optimistic point of view. I've decomposed, yet my gut's getting fat. Oh my god I'm turning out like my dad. I'm just a grouch sitting on the couch. The world owes me so f... you. The wife's a nag and the kid's f...ing up. I don't have sex cause I can't get it up. I'm always rude. I've got a bad attitude. The world owes me so f... you.
Hope that wasn't too strong - it's my favourite song to put on when thinking about the witnesses!!
PS - my dad incorporated Imagine into one of his public talks re new system so I found that pretty ironic!
Waiting by Green Day is also good when the aggro has worn off - talks about a new chance to get things right! :-)
well, just got back from a big talk with my parents.
i finally let them in on the fact that i question the society.
(dad is an elder and mother has been in it for 67 years since birth.
Hi Mr Moe, just wanted to add my hugs and to say that you might be worrying about nothing. I told my parents and two friend my 'apostate' thoughts and one of the friends was the presiding overseer's daughter. Then I got upset one night and put 'apostate' literature under the door of the kingdom hall, which I later found out was seen by the security camera and so everyone kind of knows my 'apostate' beliefs. However, besides one brief 'hello' visit from the presiding overseer and his wife, I have never been bothered by them and am still a witness in good standing, for all I know. Actually, I think they really don't give a shit. I hope it goes the same for you, it is a lot easier!! And believe me - even if the worst happens, it's better that it happens than not at all!
a french co has died after an attempt to suicide in lyon, this week.. he have made his speech on the convention, and the next morning was found dead by the family where he sleep.. this is a personnal information, no french's newspaper have talked about it.. .
bye.
charles
You're all right - witnesses do ignore depression and see it as a sign of weakenss. Also, the whole witness thing can lead to depression - see Apocalypse Delayed by M James Penton (pp 288-292) if anyone's interested in how ideology can lead to suicide. I had two psychologists telling me to leave the witnesses years before I left. I wish I'd taken their advice a lot sooner! Fred Hall can keep living in fairyland - I've had elders tell me to grow up when they knew nothing about family relationships etc. They are just not competent to deal with harsh reality outside 'new system' thinking.
i've been out for a year and miss a couple of my friends a lot.
someone told me a saying yesterday, though, that some friends are for a reason, some are for a season and some are for a lifetime.
i'm usually not into corny sayings but that one made me think.
I've been out for a year and miss a couple of my friends a lot. Someone told me a saying yesterday, though, that some friends are for a reason, some are for a season and some are for a lifetime. I'm usually not into corny sayings but that one made me think. JWs are friends for a reason, because they have to be, and that isn't really the basis of a lifelong friendship (especially if you leave!) I was wondering if anyone had any other advice for me! Also regarding being a complete novice with everything at 24!!
Ta, Jayne
fine and windy.
around 20 degrees celsius.
(not bad for mid-winter, eh?).
Thanks Prisca. Maybe cu there.
Jayne
fine and windy.
around 20 degrees celsius.
(not bad for mid-winter, eh?).
Hi Ozzie,
I'm a Gong girl myself - might be able to chuck a sickie Sunday for a good cause. Where and when? I don't know how to get in touch with you oby email.
Jayne
hey ya'll ... ain't tuesdays, thursdays and sundays even better nowadays ?.
i was wondering what it is that you hated most about the meets ?.
the one thing that used to really rile me was the pressure to control the children - the frowns and the disapproving looks when they were just behaving like normal kids .... the worst of it all for me was seeing any little person being taken outside and hearing the loud slaps even when the door was closed .... what is it that you least miss ?
Right on Hmmm!!
I too hated the fact that everyone talked about witnessing blah blah but it was only ever me and another sister who ever bothered to show up for Sunday witnessing. They would give us a map and let us go! Year in and year out. And we still never made it into the cool pioneer group!!
Jayne
hi, just a question about something that i have been wondering about for a while.
did anyone else have the feeling that they had to discover who they were when they moved away from the wts?
for the majority of my life i had been identified as one of jw, that was how i saw myself and it impacted on everything and everyone else in my life.
Hey Cautious, a fellow Aussie! I left last year and I'm finding it really hard, too. Even though I've always been fairly independent, I keep being surprised by how conservative the dubs made me. But I guess we're in there somewhere and we'll make it! Good luck!
"the first person to wish me a happy birthday gets dropped in the alligator moat," said prince as he walked into a conference room thursday at paisley park.. the story can be found at:.
http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?nocache=1&dato=20010612&kategori=news2&lopenr=10612002&ref=ar.
yakki da.
Hi guys, just wanted to say thanks for helping me make it through the week with the great Prince jokes and District Convention summaries on earlier threads. I'm new here and loving it!! :-)