in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
Here we are on page 8, an entire thread dedicated to CJW pointing out even a single mistake, and we've seen him dance to the left, dance to the right, but even after 8 pages he is still not able to point out a mistake.
CJW please realize that this is your blind spot. You are not able to point out a mistake, not even one, even though you admit they were made. Why not? Why can't you do that? Is it because you are under mind control?
...or so i used to think.. what is worship?.
not sitting listening to wtb$ corporation propoganda which is more a sales seminar than worship.. not giving talks, sermons or demonstrations designed to make you better sales persons in field misery for the benefit of your reputation when the elders jusde you.. not constantly being hypnotized to believe i am not good enough and must do more or my imaginary friend in the sky will lovingly kill me soon (terms and conditions apply and are subject to 'overlapping').
not answering from a hi-lited piece of litter-trash at indoctrination sessions designed to make you better recruiters so the gb can have power and money.. if i were god i wouldn't consider 7.5million sheeple obeying 7 power trippers in brooklyn worship to me.....idoliary, yes.
Even when I was a true believer this was something of a question for me. How come we only worshipped God for a few minutes (praying and singing) and spend most of the time parroting the literature? I never quite got that but of course this problem was filed away under the "do more research when you have the time" file. Luckily I did used the family study night to do a lot of research and the result of that was that I'm now no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses and very proud of that.
i've sent quite a few new pms on a number of subjects but had no responses.
am i being ignored or is there some sort of it problem?
i don't want to be a pest and nag....but if it is an it problem i'd like to get it fixed.
Some peeps may be on vacation or maybe they don't like your PMs or they don't know that you can get a PM or simply don't notice it.
in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
Too bad I wasn't alive yet in 1974 so I could not take up the brothers' excellent advice to sell off all my property in the short time remaining!
the easiest place to start understanding a spectral concept, such as cults, is to indentify it's lowest and highest points rather than starting somewhere in the middle.. so lets call the lowest point of the cult spectrum benign and the highest point destructive.. a good example of an extremely benign cult would be the following of the not so popular 80s movie: the princess bride of which i consider myself a member (no documentation .
if you were to come up to me and claim to be part of the princess bride's cult following i could figure out whether you are a true member by asking you a few questions.
based on your answers i could then conclude that you either meet the criteria or that you do not.
Instead of cult, you could also use high control group. When a JW hears you describe them as a group, they feel like you think they're not important. When you say cult, they like it because it makes them feel persecuted. But they don't like being called a group at all. Doesn't make them feel persecuted, just redundant.
Also, since the literature never talks about what to do when somebody says you're in a high control group, they don't know how to answer.
i hope i do not repeat topic.
i just read this interesting article here:.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,775520,00.html.
Nice to see some reporters not to lazy to fall for the JW spin
the governing body of jehovah's witnesses: reliable, spirit-led, trustworthy and accurate in their teachings?.
or: unreliable, human led, untrustworthy and inaccurate in their guesswork?.
you decide!
I was born in '82 so according to this Awake I was born in paradise! Awesome!
in a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.
it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?
what is their end game?.
Once an organization becomes large enough they all share the same two goals:
1. Protect their existence
2. Growth
Governments, religion, corporate entities all share this. And they will do whatever they can to reach both goals, and are only stopped when public opinion threatens their growth or existence.
i was having a discussion with an aquaintance about if there was evidence that the watchtower has jehovah's holy spirit.
he said, "given the fact that no other organization has won more supreme court cases than jehovah's witnesses to protect their religious freedom in north america and abroad is unrefutable evidence of jehovah's blessing by means of his holy spirit".. your thoughts?.
Such typical witness rhetoric.. find a million things wrong with the borg, come up with some arbitrary criterium for the 'one true religion' and then stop all other thought with it. Right up there with the "but who else would we go to" dead end.
i like to think so.. although much good can come from religious belief, i feel that the bad out weighs the good.
and therefore i would rather see it all gone.. if tomorrow, all people with any belief in any religion were removed from earth to meet their maker in the afterlife they so much want, it may be for the best.. how much better atheists would get on would be interesting to see.
shirley atheists couldn't make a worse job than religionists have..
Religion is not required to have ethical, moral, responsible and good behaviour, even though most people think so. So yes, toss it out of the window, there are no benefits.
