here is what the jw's say about disfellowinshipping.
i can not seem to past the text from their website help.. .
Who cares if you are DF'ed or DA'ed. The end result is that the WTBTS promotes that JWs should shun you for both offenses. The WTBTS is run by lawyers.
Remember how Bill Clinton didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky but his cigar did?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
please like our new page "silence is consent"!
we have made the page to make awareness about children who grow up in religious cults and are put in harm's way by the cults rules!.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/silence-is-consent/372373866194292.
BTTT
Kind of surprizing that only 291 people have liked this FB page. Why haven't more people liked it?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
as the title suggests, there is a young man studying the bible teach book and attending meetings.
at every meeting that he has attended, there have been some really cultish comments.
of course i hear them loud and clear now, and for years then were coming through, that is why i woke up.. anyway, at the meeting i was sitting there, hating it, listening to all the emotion comments from the audience.
Do it DATA-DOG!! There is a difference between preaching religion versus helping circumvent the WTBTS victimizing another person with BITE control techniques.
You could do what Gayle suggested. You could take a Watchtower or Awake! and write a website on it such as www.jwfacts.com, www.watchtowerdocuments.com, www.jwsurvey.org, or www.freedomofmind.com.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
if it has not already been asked any predictions for the game tomorrow?.
ravens 28 .
49ers 27. .
Unhappy JWs attending meetings instead of watching the game.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
says a woman on a y!a forum.
of course no witness would say they weren't happy .
by the waaaaaay.... .
Hi OneStepOut93, Have you thought about going on fun outings with your friend to places that she can meet non-JWs, who she would share common interests? When she is having fun and is happy, ask her open ended questions about what is making her happy. When she is at WTBTS events and seems sad, ask her open ended questions about what is bothering her. Always ask simple, non-doctrinal questions about how she feels to get her to think to help her authentic persona to come out more. The main concept is to avoid asking her about any WTBTS doctrinal issues which will activate her cult persona and she will raise her WTBTS shields.
If you do ask her about doctrinal issues, always ask her how she feels about doctrinal issues of other dangerous cults to help her authentic persona emerge and say how she feels. After getting her to state her true feelings, then ask her an open ended question about the WTBTS which will expose her cognitive dissonance and wait for her answer. The longer the wait the better. JWs are predictable, so make plan(s), do your research, go slowly, and be flexible in your approach.
Have you read any of Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cuts and Beliefs"), visited his website, or watched videos of him like the following video?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw-oF-Z_I7U
Best of wishes awakening your JW friend.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
you guys don't know me, i'm new here.
i'm typing on an iphone (pardon any random weird iphone auto-spell corrections) and could walk home to get to my laptop but i might lose the courage to post what comes to my heart to share right now.
worse and more likely, i'll simply not be able to express what i felt right now... if i wait until i have a proper keyboard.
Welcome nibbled, and thanks for sharing your experiences. Post on JWN as much as possible to help you vent your emotions, instead of raising suspicions of JW family and friends.
Since you love your parents very much, I would recommend that you read Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones to Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visit his website, and view the following video. Since you seem financially well off, I would also recommend that you contact Steve Hassan through his website to either talk with him personally or to locate a cult exit counselor who is near you or your parents to help you awaken them.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw-oF-Z_I7U
Since you design using human empathy, write down your plan(s) to help awaken your parents. The following is an example of a potential and basic plan that assumes that you are financially secure:
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
P.S. - Although you said that you are not interested in tearing the WTBTS down, is there a way that you can utilize your talents to help other exJWs and JWs to empower them to force the WTBTS to stop promoting JWs to shun family and friends, to stop using BITE control techniques to victimize JWs, or to protect JW children from pedophiles? I would suggest volunteering to help people like Barbara Anderson, Paul Grundy, Cedars, Steven UnThank, and Steve Hassan
there was a conti that was a do in my circuit a few years ago.
who are the conti's that everyone is talking about?
?.
Hi slipnslidemaster, Did you visit JWN in Sept-Oct 2012? Candace Conti won a judgement against the WTBTS. The WTBTS is appealing the judgement. This was the only news article I could find http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/calif-jury-awards-28m-in-_n_1602997.html. I guess the newsmedia considers it old news.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
please like our new page "silence is consent"!
we have made the page to make awareness about children who grow up in religious cults and are put in harm's way by the cults rules!.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/silence-is-consent/372373866194292.
BTTT
Hi DonJuel, Have you thought about using Google News to search for "Jehovah's Witnesses Convention" and attaching a comment to the WTBTS informercial asking readers to like your webpage? You could write something like:
"Silence is Consent! Help protect children from pedophiles who are protected by religions. Visit https://www.facebook.com/pages/Silence-is-Consent/372373866194292 to learn more."
Also, I would recommend that you contact Steven UnThank <[email protected]> about creating a shorter url to your facebook page. Steven Unthank is an Aussie, who is trying to help JW children in Australia, and helped me create a shorter url http://on.fb.me/wh-petition to Protect Americans from Dangerous Orgs FB page.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
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good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.
Hi Kool Joe, Just a couple of links to upcoming legal cases against the WTBTS:
Also, you can use Google News to locate other news stories of lawsuits against the WTBTS (i.e., search for Jehovah's Witnesses lawsuit) and news stories about recent Roman Catholic monsignors, bishops, and cardinals, who protected pedophile priests more than parishioners.
Peaceb be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
saw my mum a couple of hours ago and she was saying how low she was feeling.
basically miserable and doesn't like anyone.
she wouldn't tell me anything other than that but i kind of know whats eating at her.
Hi not bitter, If you love your mother, take her out to meet non-JWs, who might share similar interests with her. If she is happier going on outings with you and meeting non-JWs, eventually she will not want to go to the KH and talking with JWs.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
