Thanks for sharing Watchtower-Free. I wish that more JWs would learn such a simple lesson as that little girl about how to critically think for themselves.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
this was just posted to facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/10152073176825835/?comment_id=10152073536380835¬if_t=group_comment_reply.
by christina jones.
Thanks for sharing Watchtower-Free. I wish that more JWs would learn such a simple lesson as that little girl about how to critically think for themselves.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
jehovah's witnesses want to put up a semi-permenent .
literature stand in this town.
if you wish send them a message about what jws are really about.
IMHO it is better to let the WTBTS set-up semi-permanent propaganda stand(s). It is a lot easier to politely plant seeds of doubts in JWs as they guard their stand then chase after JWs in D2D FS. I would definately talk with local merchants to help educate them, as well as ask them to place Posters with QR codes to www.jwfacts.com and www.freedomofmind.com in their windows.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
friends,.
i have seen several posts like the following, and never thought i would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear mom is forcing me to make a move... one that i have been really avoiding as much as possible.
she wrote me an email today, and here i am giving you an idea of its contents.
Welcome ateograciasadios, I'm sorry that your mother's cult persona is trying to emotionally coerce you to behaving as a JW.
I would write your mother the following note to politely confront her and to find out what she is implying, because she did not write that she will be shunning you:
Dear Mom,
I'm very confused by your last letter to me where you wrote, "I will have to arrive to the inevitable conclusion that you have left Him, which means you are also leaving me." Mom, I love you unconditionally and have no plans leaving you. Are you planning on leaving me? What are you trying to tell me? Also, who is brother Brown?
I will call you (insert a time).
I'm (insert what you are doing or what you want to write her).
Love,
Pease be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?
like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.
i need honest answers to this.
FL_Panthers - The only thing I am worried about is my relationship with my rents. I have a feeling that if I fade they wont speak to me again. Armageddon doesn't really come in my mind in my day to day life. So you could say that I'm a witness for the wrong reason.
Hi FL_Panthers, If you are afraid that your parents will shun you if you are Df'ed, how do you feel they will treat you if they know you are inactive?
Start making your plan to fade. Your first step should be to vent your frustrations about the WTBTS/JWs on JWN and your second step should be to independently research the WTBTS to either confirm that the WTBTS is a dangerous cult or that the WTBTS is the sole "True Religion". Once you have convinced yourself of what the WTBTS is, then you can make more decisive decisions. In the mean time as long as JWs do not suspect your true feelings, there are no adverse consequences for you. JWN members will treat you respectfully as long as you reciprocate. JWs will not if you will not blindly follow the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
after leaving the cult of jw's or waking up to ttatt, it is a struggle to trust people again.
i am personally starting from scratch although i am still in.
each moment i spend with my current jw friends, i know they are all smiles and loving towards me because of my good status with the wt.. outside a cult you still find fake people and it is also a struggle to find true friends and it is even worst when we've been hit hard from people we used to trust and care for.. .
Hi suavojr, Your JW phobias are showing.
Take your time - there is no rush. Do activities that you enjoy where you can meet non-JWs. Have conversations with people, ask them questions, tell them a little about yourself, and share experiences with each other. Eventually you will either feel a mutual interest or not. It takes time to build healthy and unconditional relationships. Conditional relationships are easier to make and break.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
........................ ........................will jw`s be using their cell phone or tablet.. ...............to show a wbt$ video to people in the field service?!!...
........................... .................................... .. .......................................click the link below:.
................................................... http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=19681.
If BITE control depends on emotional attachment to JWs, won't more reliance on technology and less on social interaction backfire on the WTBTS? I hope so!
If JWs start showing me propaganda via the internet on a smartphone/tablet, I am planning to take out my smart phone and show them videos of Steve Hassan or "ApostateChick". I hope someone creates powerful, less than 2 minute videos to reverse witness to JWs, so that I can reverse witness better.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
in the uk, this sunday is mother's day!
ask a jw why they don't celebrate holidays and they'll tell you it's because of some nefarious pagan connection.
but this is really just a cover.
Hi baltar447, Try it without the "http://". You got to love JWN's quirks - it keeps life interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0DeIqJm4vM
To all the JW mothers out there, HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to you.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
hello everyone just wanted to relate a situation that occurred a few days ago.
so i have quit going to meetings for a few months now based on some issues i have with the explanations of current doctrines.
my wife is none too happy with this but over the last few months we have had some date nights and have tentitively agreed to disagree.
Hi GoUnion, Since the WTBTS uses BITE control techniques to coerce JWs to do what the WTBTS wants and not what God or Jesus Christ wants, isn't that a form of evil? Even Jesus Christ labeled the Pharisees and Sadducees as "ferocious wolves" in Matthew 7:15 [ True and False Prophets ] “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves."
The WTBTS may not be evil, but it is a very hypocritical organization. JWs can appear to be very caring and loving to JWs, but only as long as one is a JW in good standing. Is it evil for the WTBTS to promote that JWs must shun former JWs and tear apart families just because former JWs do not believe the WTBTS is God's sole channel for JWs? Is it evil for the WTBTS to pressure families not to except whole blood transfusions and possibly die to comply with a warped and unscriptual "Blood" doctrine created by Freddy Franz/Nathan Knorr? Is it evil for the WTBTS to be so controlling that JWs create a cult persona and authentic persona to live by the controlling doctrines of the WTBTS?
In time as the BITE control wears off you will start to full-fill your potential and your opinion may change about the WTBTS.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
Hi LillyC, You are right that this forum is not very intuitative.
If you want to see what you have posted, click on your username "LillyC" at the top of this thread or in the top right-hand corner of this webpage. Your personal page will be displayed with the last three options as "Topics Started", "Topics Posted On", and "Send Messages" in the blue menu bar. Clicking on the options button underneath your username in the top right-hand corner of the webpage only expands or compresses the webpage on you display. Clicking on the envelope next to your username in the top right-hand corner of the webpage will display messages that you have received. If no number is on the envelope you have no messages.
I hope that aforementioned comments help you and that you will continue to post on this forum.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
one of my dear loved ones called me.
she knows i am df'd and she wanted to reach out to me.
she fell away for a few years, and when she came back i had a study with her before she became active again.
HI KateWild, DITTO what other posters have written about listen to your friend first and then show her what may help her. Collect a smorgasbord of information that you can email her and/or show her after you learn what she wants. Also, do not under estimate the power of BITE control, so help your friend to realize that she is now empowered to live her life to her full potential and that she has many options to choose from.
IMHO your friend probably feels disillusioned with the WTBTS and feels worthless and possibly stupid. To help your friend overcome those feelings, I would recommend that you show her How Big is the Phenomenon of Undue Influence? (2:01) and Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23). You need to be there when she watches those videos to help her to feel good about herself.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert