Posts by ABibleStudent

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They came swiftly and left like a speeding bullet, JW.ORG

by jam in

i was in the den when the old lady yell, "your friends are here".. at the door stood a jw.

hi sir (no good morning sir) we have a web site,.

jw.org in different languages.

ABibleStudent

My experience with JWs at the door was the same as others. I feel that the WTBTS trains the R&F to drop-off and move to the next door.

As long as you do not initially condem the WTBTS, JWs will engage in conversation. My conversation started with asking them if they understood what the "No Solicitation" sign meant and which hall were they from.

During the course of 30-minutes I invited them several times to my condo to verify what I said about WTBTS doctrines or to study the Bible. I engaged in conversations with up to 4 men and 1 woman. I always tried to ask them simple questions about how they felt and to do independent research. Based on their responses they either were lying to me, don't read the Watchtower or Awake!, don't remember what they read, and/or don't want to know what is written in the WTBTS propaganda. I doubt that any of those JWs will take me up on my offer to read the Bible with them without WTBTS propaganda.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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So what was Microsoft thinking with Win 8?

by TD in

i know some of you are in the field and many others are hobbyists and enthusiasts.. aside from a tablet/smart phone os, what were they thinking?.

i don't know a single desktop user (e.g.

architects, engineers running autocad, solid works, etc.

ABibleStudent

I bought a new laptop with Windows 8 in March 2013. I replaced it with a Windows 7 laptop within 24 hrs. At that time it was difficult to find a Windows 7 laptop that I liked, but I did!

I feel that Microsoft created Windows 8 to increase Ad/software revenue by simulating going through a virtual supermarket checkout line filled with impulsive items to purchase every time someone logs off and on. Since the native Windows 8 interface slows down my productivity, it would have made more sense allowing users to choose which interface to use instead of offering a traditional Windows interface months later if Microsoft was concerned about a users productivity.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Born In JWs: Were You Abused According to the CDC?

by ABibleStudent in

child abuse in the usa.

child abuse is the physical, sexual or emotional maltreatment or neglect of a child or children.

in the united states, the centers for disease control and prevention (cdc) and the department for children and families (dcf) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child.

ABibleStudent

Child Abuse in the USA

Child abuse is the physical, sexual or emotional maltreatment or neglect of a child or children. In the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Department for Children and Families (DCF) define child maltreatment as any act or series of acts of commission or omission by a parent or other caregiver that results in harm, potential for harm, or threat of harm to a child. Child abuse can occur in a child's home, or in the organizations, schools or communities the child interacts with. There are four major categories of child abuse: neglect, physical abuse, psychological or emotional abuse, and sexual abuse.

If you were a born in, do you feel that you were abused according to the Wikipedia article on child abuse? In 2009 the CDC first published a report to document the prevalence of Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) in a population-based representative sample from 5 US states categorized by demographic characteristics, including sex, age, education, and race/ethnicity - affiliation with high-control groups like the WTBTS was not part of the study.

It has been 5 years since that CDC study. I wonder if writing to the CDC about mind manipulation by those who experienced it first hand would inspire the CDC to do more research.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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World's greatest website JW.ORG ?

by Pterist in

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http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/14030-jworg-greatest-website-in-the-world/.

thoughts, comments, outbursts ;) .

ABibleStudent

Walter C. Langer - “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.”

What would you expect JWs to believe? JW.org is very good at manipulating the minds of JWs, so promoting hubris and creating thought stopping platitudes in JWs is to be expected. JW.org is the "World's Greatist Website": it can't be wrong!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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feeling like a true apostate today

by truthwillsetyoufree in

it was back in 2011 when i was convinced that jws dont have the truth.

i rejected so many teachings and was open about that to members of my family.

it took me another year to pluck up the courage to attend other churches.

ABibleStudent

Good work truthwillsetyoufree!

I have done the same thing at my condo complex by picking up left propaganda, engaging in conversations with JWs to plant seeds of doubt, and writing to the management association to call the KH to put the whole condo complex on the do not call list. JWs will probably ignor do not call requests, but it is better to refuse JW.org propaganda than except it.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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2014 SNAP Conference in Chicago; Report by Barbara Anderson & Kerry Louderback Wood

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

2014 snap conference report.

posted on august 20, 2014 by barbara.

from august 1 3, kerry louderback wood* and i attended the 2014 annual snap** conference, which was also its twenty-fifth anniversary celebration, in chicago, illinois.. .

ABibleStudent

Thank you Barbara for keeping everyone abreast of what you are doing.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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help needed....cult question from watchtower

by goingthruthemotions in

so i was looking at the boards not too long ago and saw a list of questions that were related to whether or not a religion was a cult that looked like it came from the watchtower.

i've been trying to find those questions again so i could find the watchtower and hopefully one day show this to my wife who is still asleep to the troof of the gb.. .

the help would be greatly appreciated.. .

ABibleStudent

Hi goingthruthemotions, Here is the current JW.org explaination of how to recognize a cult is: http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-cult/#?insight[search_id]=9d26e05b-4c9d-4994-9af6-3d9c69d062ed&insight[search_result_index]=0. Are "Some" [people] cult-exit counselors?

How do you feel that your wife would respond to you asking her, "Is JW.org a cult-exit counselor or a religion? If you are afraid to read how cult-exit counselors determine when an organization manipulates and victimizes its members, you are probably being manipulated by JW.org. Prove to yourself that you are not manipulated by JW.org by visiting websites like www.freedomofmind.com."

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Hard time coping with shunning

by bsand20 in

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friends

it's almost 1am and i can't sleep...again.

i hate to think the organization is still taking my sleep from me 16 years later but i can't help it.

i run a page on social media for ex jw support and advice and i'm usually there helping others but it definitely takes a toll on me when i'm having to argue and disprove jws that troll my page.

ABibleStudent

Hi bsand20, You have done nothing wrong. You love JWs unconditionally. You can only control your actions. You cannot control other peoples' actions. If you are thinking about going to a counselor, do it sooner verses later, especially a cult-exit counselor. You can ask for a recommendation for a cult-exit counselor in your area through www.freedomofmind.com or talk by phone with Steve Hassan or another counselor to address your unique issues.

Have you read any of Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs")? If not, you should to improve communications with JW friends and relatives. When JWs shun you, have you thought about saying, "Shunning me only proves to me more and more that JW.org is a dangerous cult. I will never return, so why waste time shunning me when we can talk instead?"

Instead of arguing with JWs, have you thought about asking them questions? How would they respond to you asking them on Facebook, "Can you disprove [name of a specific article] on www.jwfacts.com? the point is to turn the tables on JWs and let them do the work to disprove your beliefs. They can count the time and you do not have to argue with them.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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It's All About Tablets

by metatron in

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friends

well, that seems to be the latest hot thing amoung witnesses.

everybody buys a tablet.

even the poor families that eat carb heavy meals are gettin' em.. maybe they can't afford the latest apple product like the maxi/mini pad or whatever they're calling it these days so a trip to ebay or overstock.com fills the bill.. use it instead of a songbook.

ABibleStudent

As more JWs connect to the internet, the GB is gonna need truckloads of Alka-Seltzer. Curiousity will eventually overcome mind manipulation.

All a home owner needs to say is "I'm sorry. JW.org is not truthful and victimizes JWs." JWs will just say good-bye. That's what happened last Satuday when I said "I'm sorry, JW.org is not truthful." Unfortunately, they will not automatically put an address on the "Do Not Call List". May be new light will be coming.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love

Robert

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Is taking a blood transfusion a "Disfellowshipping or Disassoication" offense?

by booker-t in

i remember back in the day when i was a devout jw in the 90s elders would go to the hospital to try and see if a person took a blood transfusion.

i remember my cousin was having surgery after a severe car accident and if he did not take blood the doctor said he would have died.

the elder came to the hospital and badgered my cousin's wife until she told him my cousin did get some blood.

ABibleStudent

Band on the Run - How did they know about oral sex?

BITE control is powerful enough for "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JWs to confess to elders. As crazy as it sounds, I know, that my former friend who is a "Spiritually Strong" (non-thinking) JW confessed to elders that she committed pornei with the JW, who she was/is dating. She was disfellowshipped. I don't know why she was disfellowshipped, because she was obviously repentent by confessing to the elders.

Who would want to be in a relationship with someone who cannot resolve issues privately between each other?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert