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  Proof of God or Christ without a holy book

  by Awen in

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  in some previous posts i have asked certain questions that still haven't been answered.

  so without going back to those threads and possibly de-railing them i thought it best to make a new topic.

  please bear with me.. i have asked certain ones to prove the existence of god or christ without referencing any biblical writings or characters.

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  FHN - I've felt that some ex-JW's are still p roselytizing. Yes, they don't go from door to door. But until I began lurking here I'd never seen such lengthy, passionate argumentation about God, or even other topics. I've also noticed this in the political discussions here.

  Very strongly held opinions. Certainly anyone has a right to those opinions. But IMO some ex-JWs are still trying to convert others. Not to become one of JW's, but to convince others their position is correct.

  And they are RIGHT.
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  *sigh*

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

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  this is my first time participating in a site like this , so please.

  forgive me if my approach is clumsy.. my story is not extraordinary and hardly interesting, so thanks.

  in advance to this forum for extending the bandwidth for my own.

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  C.O.B.E. Beef, you have a PM
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  Question for the men

  by SafeAtHome in

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  i'd like the input of the guys, maybe some of you who have been married or in a serious relationship for some time.

  if you were having an affair and your wife found out about it, would you want her to tell you she knew?

  would it serve a purpose, that is, make you end the affair, or on the other hand, push it over the edge to be with the other person?

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  I've been married for 37 years. Twice I've had friendships with women that turned into intense attraction (at least on my part), never anything physical. My wife knew I was friends with these women.

  I was so stupid not to realize how uncomfortable it made her. I realized eventually that at least for me, any close friendships need to be only with men. Not sitting in judgement of anyone else. That's just how I handle it now.

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  Searching for non bias news and information sources.

  by Joliette in

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  is there any good ones?.

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  I agree there is no such thing as "unbaised" news. The closest magazine I've seen, and my favorite, is The Economist. It's quite a bit to go thru each week (100 pages, and fairly complex articles). They are conservative in a way, criticizing what they feel is excessive government spending. But they are also quite moderate. I am a fiscal conservative and enjoy reading their articles about the world economy. They do cover the entire world on a weekly basis.

  They endorsed John Kerry and Barack Obama in the last two US presidential elections. While endorsing Obama, shortly after the election and at times since, they have criticized him for various reasons. This has confused some in the US, who don't understand that you can endorse a person in an election but then disagree with some of their policies.

  They describe themselves as "Liberal in the classical sense - endorsing freedom of expression and a free economy."

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  France to Fine Women Wearing Full-Faced Islamic Veils

  by leavingwt in

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  france to fine women who don full-face islamic veils in publicthe french government decided wednesday to impose a $185 fine on women who wear a full-face islamic veil in public, pushing ahead with a controversial ban despite signs of tension between france's muslims and the christian-tradition majority.

  president nicolas sarkozy said his government was forwarding the legislation to parliament because it had a "moral responsibility" to uphold traditional european values in the face of an increasingly visible muslim population, estimated at more than 5 million, the largest in western europe.

  he called the course chosen by his government "demanding" but "just," and he insisted that the law was not intended to stigmatize the country's muslims.

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  France should not attempt to regulate religion. If people want to obey their religion by wearing certain clothing, so be it.

  This action (forbidding certain clothing) by France is racist.

  There are many muslims in France. I've read they are roughly 8% of the population. If they want to exercise their religion, so be it. France is a democracy, yes? Get over it.
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  Couple of questions for the Christians here - CO's talk mentioned some things that I want to understand

  by Doubting Bro in

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  this is a question for all the christians on the board.

  i sat through the first co talk last night which was basically a plea to not give up preaching.

  one of his main points was that no one else had "the truth" and every other person that claims to be christian is in error.

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  "the Trinitarians pet translation, the KJV......"

  Where do you get that? The KJV hasn't been the translation of choice (except for a few small groups) for quite some time.

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  Changes are coming

  by startingover in

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  i see it happening.

  any comments on our future here in the us?http://www.evolver.net/user/soultraveller/blog/america_changes_are_cominga_lot_them_are_herechanges are coming ----.

  that will blow your mind..... #1 the united states has lost approximately 42,400 factories since.

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  Yes - changes are coming. And they have come. I think the pace of change wil acellerate. But I don't believe this means some doomsday scenario.

  Manufacturing jobs are (and have been) moved overseas. But this has also resulted in cheaper prices for us.

  Things will be different. In jobs which can be easily outsourced wages in the U. S. will be under pressure. Our challenge as a society is to adapt. It is very difficult to try to be like you were 10,20, 30 years ago. It is painful. People are and will be hurt.

  I think this has actually been going on for several decades. The world has changed. The U. S. economy can't isolate itself very easily.

  I believe we can adapt. We may not be the most dominant in the sorld in the future. But again, I don't see doomsday.

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  What evidence is there that revalation's babylon the great is christindom?

  by highdose in

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  2. beliefs

  i seem to recall that the jw evidence for this is very thin on the ground.

  they take one phrase about the "bride and bridegroom"never being heard again, and say that shows it must mean christidom.

  but thats one line out of an entire stream of discription that quite frankly could be about anything.

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  IMO there is no "Christendom" as the WTBS describes it. There are so many groups believing so many different things.

  I wouldn't take anything the WTBS says as unbiased.

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  An argument against atheism: It's hopeless

  by simon17 in

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  i hear this critique against atheism a lot.

  that its simply a hopeless way to live one's life.

  believers give this argument, not passionately, but almost desicively, as if clearly a outlook they don't want for life is a wrong outlook.. is there anything you can do to reason with such ones?

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  I have yet to read a post by any believer in any religion that is logical. They appeal to "faith".

  We would all be better off facing the reality.

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  An argument against atheism: It's hopeless

  by simon17 in

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  i hear this critique against atheism a lot.

  that its simply a hopeless way to live one's life.

  believers give this argument, not passionately, but almost desicively, as if clearly a outlook they don't want for life is a wrong outlook.. is there anything you can do to reason with such ones?

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  I don't know why this is open for debate. It is patently obvious a supreme being doesn't exist.

  Debate on this issue is for the ignorant. It wastes space on the forum.

  Anyone could read posts by Terry (and many others) and see the objectivity of athiest arguments.