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  FREE FLYER TO DOWNLOAD AND DISTRIBUTE!

  by nicolaou in

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  the volunteer section at the dnc site is coming along now.. in addition to the affiliate scheme there are now labels and an eyecatching a5 flyer to print off and distribute.. .

  it's simple - no fancy graphics - and can be printed 'black on white' very cheaply.. a 1000 flyers can be produced for very few 's or $'s.. how about spending a bit extra for two-color printing, the bright red warning!

  is really worth it.. don't say there's nothing you can do because now there is!.

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  I wasn't able to bring up your site, Nicolaou. It must be off-line right now. I think it is a good idea, though.

  Have you thought about a system where you and your comrades notify congregations of ones wishing to be put on the no-call list? Maybe you could have a form on your site where they could imput the info to be mailed off to the correct congregation. Of course this would require a database of all the Kingdom Halls by zip code.

  I know I'm dreaming, but think of it! I bet your site would get some pretty heavy traffic!

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  If Andy Griffith Was an Elder....

  by SixofNine in

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  ....he'd be saying "waaaeeell, boutros boutros ghali.

  i'll say; don't this ngo thang jist take the cake?!

  !

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  Opie would look up at Andy with his little freckled face and say, "Gee Paw, I reckon they got themselves in a mess of trouble."

  And Andy (the elder) would say, "No Ope, it's not like that. It's just one of those adult things ... I reckon maybe you'll understand when you're older."

  Crummy red-neck elders ... they're all the same! :)

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  Funny one liners.

  by OUTLAW in

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  busyer than a one legged man,in an ass kicking contest.

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  Here's another one for you Jan ... Why do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?

  And my favorite one liner: (I use this on my family) If I wanted to go on a trip, it wouldn't be a guilt trip!

  Karen

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  The three reasons we leave the "Truth"

  by sleepy in

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  seems to me there are mainly three roads most of us have taken.

  1.we did something "wrong" and were disfellowshipped and after felt able to look at the society in a different light.. 2.we didn't like the "truth" and were looking for a way out.. 3.we wanted it to be the truth but were overcome by the mountain of evidence against it.. which is the most common i wonder.. also do our motives play a large part in how we deal with information criticising the org.. without a reason to act information seems useless.. for instance if a person feels he has nothing to gain by leaving the org will he read different things into the same info as us?.

  i think so and that all who leave must have a reason to do so, something to gain.. this does not make their reasoning wrong or prove they we are looking for just excuse.. but is a normal way in which humans deals with information.. two humans can have the same information but if they want or desire different things they may use the information differently.. maybe thats wht so many say "where else is there to go?

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  I would like to add a reason #4: We couldn't live with the all the hypocrisy, even though we still believed it was the truth.

  I believed it was truth, yet I saw such hypocrisy in the witnesses. I saw cover-ups and the buddy-buddy system of the bodies of elders. Double standards were imposed depending on if you were related to some high-ranking brother.

  Sad to say ... I still believed it was the truth and whenever I expressed my concerns, the answer I always got was to "wait on Jehovah." "Jehovah will take care of it in his own due time." I finally got so tired of it, I decided I didn't want to in the "truth" even if it was the truth!

  Luckily, leaving enabled me to do some searching and discover and discover that none of it is the truth anyway.

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  Pledge of Allegiance

  by Celia in

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  poor jw kids all aver america :.

  to: vermont school board members.

  from: edie miller.

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  I am a teacher in an elementary school and I haven't heard anything about this. Sometimes, they spring things on us in the early morn (they did this when we were to observe a minute of silence as a nation), but somehow I doubt it. I guess I will see tomorrow.

  Incidentally, we had a staff meeting following school today. They gave us a new set of emergency procedures in case of a terrorist threat or attack. Realistically, our principal said that if something were to happen, it would occur at some other public or government building, but as he pointed out, terrorists in Isreal have been known to target children, such as on school buses and such.

  Their primary concern, if there is to be another terrorist attack, is the mass hysteria that would ensue and cause all our parents to come check out their children. 500 parents coming to check their children at once is a problem. So the plan is for the building to go into lockdown mode, with a station set up in the gym for parents to check out their kids (all id's have to checked) and the kids released while in lockdown mode. This prevents a mass number of parents flooding the building and roaming around.

  Actually, the process of this emergency plan is rather complicated ... getting all the kids back to their classrooms and to rapidly set up their system in the gym, etc. We asked if we would be practicing this procedure (as we do fire drills,tornado drills, etc.) We are no because, as our principal said, it would put the kids in a high state of alarm.

  As for this synchronized Pledge of Allegiance, I agree with Pathofthorns ... the children should stay out of it.

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  Jon passed away this morning

  by jonjonsimons in

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  my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

  jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

  as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

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  karen7680

  I did not know Jon, but I am very sorry for your loss. I can tell he will be missed by all on this board.

  I hope his JW family does not make this sad situation more difficult.

  Love, Karen

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  "Hey there all you lurkey ones..."

  by Simon in

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  hmmn, doesn't quite work does it?

  ok...we'll stick with 'thirsty' then .

  why not register and make a post or two...ask a question...make a statement...whatever !.

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  karen7680

  Hello all! If anything I am indeed a lurker! I am actually an frequenter of Beyond JW's website and post there quite often, but occasionally mosey over here.

  The threads here are just posted so fast and furious, I can't keep up! I find myself reading and never posting here because there is just so much to read! But I will be putting in my two cents every now and then.

  Karen

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  WTBTS CLINICAL LABORATORY OF BROOKLYN

  by Kent in

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  watch tower bible & tract society clinical laboratory of brooklyn.

  the watchtower is running a lot of strange businesses, and this one is just an example.

  they are listed as a medical laboratory by new york state department of health - health care reform act (hcra).

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  I know it's been awhile, so I may be wrong, but doesn't Bethel have nurses, etc. on "staff" for the Bethelites to see ... similar to them having their own barbers, dry cleaners, etc.? If this is the case, then I think they would need a license to draw blood and run simple tests.

  If you want my "the truth is out there" thought, they could be trying to clone the governing body! :)

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  Blood, DPA Question ... how do you void?

  by karen7680 in

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  since leaving the organization, i never gave any thought to the blood issue or the dpa (durable healthcare power of attorney)that i signed 3 or 4 years ago.

  now that i have surgery scheduled in 3 and a half months ... one in which the surgeons will have a high degree of bleeding to control, it has been on my mind a lot.. it got me to thinking about how my dpa is technically still in effect and my jw mother and my elder brother-in-law have medical say if i am not able to express my wishes.

  my question is ... how do you officially void a dpa?

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  Since leaving the organization, I never gave any thought to the blood issue or the DPA (Durable Healthcare Power of Attorney)that I signed 3 or 4 years ago. Now that I have surgery scheduled in 3 and a half months ... one in which the surgeons will have a high degree of bleeding to control, it has been on my mind a lot.

  It got me to thinking about how my DPA is technically still in effect and my JW mother and my elder brother-in-law have medical say if I am not able to express my wishes.

  My question is ... how do you officially void a DPA? Also, I am aware that even without a DPA, when one is unable to make medical decisions, by law, it automatically goes to next of kin. This is quite a concern if all of your next of kin are active j-dubs. So how do I make sure that they do not get that kind of control where I know they will not respect my current wishes if an emergency occurs?

  By the way, I do not have a spouse or significant other to replace as my DPA. Also, I have visited the AJWRB and found nothing helpful as to what to do if you wish to accept a blood transfusion, void out a DPA, or anything else related to this matter. I have not emailed any of them yet. It seems like it is mostly run by active elders which kinda gives me sick feeling ... elders.

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein
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  Brainwashing.......who does this sound like?

  by Tatiana in

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  "a lot of his control over the masses was thru "brainwashing" ,mass hysteria, and out and out fear of disobeying his fiendish commands!!!".

  what does this sound like to you?

  i would like to hear your opinions and then i will tell you where i got this quote.

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  karen7680

  Hello April! Didn't know you frequented this board too! Nice to see you again. Email me sometime!

  Karen

  "Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
  -Harvey Fierstein