Posts by Libelle

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How does life change after you have children?

by Most Noble in

Libelle

Life with kids changes many things. At first it can be very overwhelming, and naturally so, a little human who cannot do anything for her/himself must rely on others. As they get older and can do more for themselves it gets easier, but harder in a different way.

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Did the Apostle Paul exist

by Unbrainwashed publisher1 in

has any one ever found secular documented proof of the apostle paul's existence?.

Libelle

Jwffro beat me to it. There's more evidence that Paul(s) existed than a Jesus.

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Off-topic: hand shaking

by Libelle in

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this is totally unrelated to anything jw, but it's the only group i'm in online with such a mix of men and women, so i'm asking.

what's your experience with hand shaking?.

me, when i meet someone for the first time, i offer to shake their hand.

Libelle

This is totally unrelated to anything JW, but it's the only group I'm in online with such a mix of men and women, so I'm asking. What's your experience with hand shaking?

Me, when I meet someone for the first time, I offer to shake their hand. It used to be, when I worked construction, that was common, men are used to shaking men's hands, so they would be ok shaking mine, though some would offer that wet limp fish thing and I had no idea what to do with that. I work in a different field now, and I find that more men get surprised, or lost or flat out refuse to shake my hand upon meeting them. I find that very strange, particularly in a business setting. Do people really still think that men and women should not shake hands? What you all experienced that? Women, do you make it a point to shake a new acquaintance's hand? Men, do you shake a new female acquaintance's hand?

Yours Curiously,

Libelle

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10 Things You'll Never Hear at a Kingdom Hall

by Scully in

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(originally posted by armageddon1975 on yahoogroups).

"a donation to a charity.

good idea.".

Libelle

Let's go discuss that last talk over a smoke.

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10 Things You'll Never Hear at a Kingdom Hall

by Scully in

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(originally posted by armageddon1975 on yahoogroups).

"a donation to a charity.

good idea.".

Libelle

Sister So-and-so is going to give a talk about her interpretation of some passages from scripture.

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Witness Speak: the worst of collection

by grumblecakes in

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so we all know the jw vocabulary is a weird one.

what words or phrases bugged you the most?.

a few of mine:.

Libelle

I can't seem to think of the exact term, but it's something like wholesome associations. It's not wholesome though....

"heavenly father Jehovah god" shudder shudder shudder a thousand times shudder.

But what I love is when my litlest used to say, when repeating prayers from the Mr. "and your son Christ Jesus" she'd say "and my son Crisis Jesus" hahah

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Need Opinions -- Engaged to a JW!!

by junebug_11 in

ok, quick run down of my situation.. .

1. i am not religious.

my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.

Libelle

Junebug... I'm there. I married that guy who was a lapsed witness. It's not a pretty picture. For the first 5 years of our relationship, before he went back to the JW's (and before I knew exactly what that meant) things were decent. He was a moderate guy, not afraid to tell women that he was a feminist even, and I was a feminist, liberal pagan. then 3.5 years ago it all changed. They came to our door right when we were making some big changes in our live, and now he's as bad as any religious right extremist except that on top of all that, he won't celebrate any special occassion. I'm not a superficial person, but my birthday is so upsetting to me anymore. "my man" considers it the height of evil to even so much as wake up and say happy birthday with a kiss. Those little joys being gone are just the surface of the damage this religion has done to our household and relationship.

Now, I cringe just about every time he says anything because it's nearly all related to the WT and their utter drivel. Our kids (my stepkids and our one child together) have bible studies and go out in service. It's awful. I'm working on leaving this situation, because quite frankly,it's crap. And every time that I talk to him about it, he always turns it around on me, as if I'm the one who's "tearing apart our family" as if I were the one who's doen a complete 180 (I'm still a feminst, liberal, UU- pagan). In fact lately, every flaw or trouble in our house is turned into my fault or my doing. Or he likes to shove in my face how my lack of peace (inner peace, if you will) is because my own beliefs are not working. He's not willing to see how huge a divide he himself created in our household, how his arroagance, and shitty religion has made more strife in this house than my religion and it's ability to create peace for me. . And is far too willing to blame it on me since I won't listen to bible truths.

So now I am on the brink of leaving, and feel horrible guilt about this as I'm leaving my steps to their JW dad and their SDA mom... great combination for those kids isn't it? But at least I can give my own kid a home (if only half the time) where she can have birthdays, holidays, read anything she wants (even Harry Potter) and have a haven away from that cult.

That's what it's come to for us. If he's interested in sticking with them, all they will do is continue to draw him in.

One thing that's been my experience is, as an "unbelieving wife" anytime I come near a JW, they are all my bestest bestest friend and try to hug me and go out of their way to overly buddy me. It makes me shudder. If I joined them, all I"d hear is how I need to leave my job, help hubby find decent work (I'm the breadwinner) and take me and my kids out in service every day. VOMIT.

It sucks.

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How can you spot an über-Witness?

by dgp in

is there anything that would let you know, right away, that you're dealing with someone extremely witness?.

thanks..

Libelle

I don't know exactly how to pinpoint it, but they all start getting this "look" after a while. Does not matter the race, they just look witnessy... I've watched it develop on The Mr. It's scary.

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