@Inkie
I know some Bible versions translate the Hebrew as "in the evening" or "at even", but you might want to take a look at my paper for clarification. It goes into some detail on this very subject.
thus far i've read some very compelling arguments regarding the memorial/passover being on nisan 15 and not 14. but i do have a question.
why does numbers 28:16 seem to indicate plainly that the passover occured on the 14th?
surely i am missing something, no?
I only hide my likes and posts from JWs I believe will start problems. JWs from other areas of the country and ones I feel won't run to the elders, I want to see things I post and check out the groups I like. I feel I can do more good from inside than out. If a JW "unfriends" me, no great loss. There's no such thing as a JW friend, anyway. All JW relationships are just opportunities, thus all the conditions on keeping them. (at least in my experience)
i'm curious about how people filled the void after leaving the jws.
i'm at a point, a bit over a year after leaving, where i am finding i have confronted the reality of my life and situation... and it's depressing.
i realize i have holes in my life (a significant other, social activities, something higher/beyond myself) which many worldly people naturally have filled but it feels unnatural for me, almost synthetic and it makes me more depressed the more i think about it.
I am not technically "out", so I'm not sure I'm qualified to add my opinion, but qualifications don't stop most people from posting here, so...
I started really researching the Bible and reading it - you know, as if it were a book. I tend to be introspective and detail-oriented, so what might be tedious to most is fun for me. From what I've seen of most JWs, getting off the treadmill would be a huge relief. My lifestyle never lent itself to being overwhelmed by JW demands and my personality never allowed me to be ordered around. I also saw through the very human requirements: service hours, underlining, meeting and convention attendance, etc. I have had horrible experiences with JWs on a personal level, so I never got any JW false friends. My JW family members are all trash, so no loss if something happens and they shun me; I more or less already shun them.
I think most people, when they realize it's all so phony, they just walk away. They might be more mature and confident to just put it totally behind them, which is why we don't see many on forums like this. We see the people who can't let go. For some reason, I feel I need to warn JWs, so I hang around. I always loved preaching about God and His Word, and maybe I always will. The only thing that's really changed is my target audience.
...and pretty sharp too.
could make for an interesting race..
i sat around researching, compiling, and writing this today.
i know it's long, but there's a lot of information in it.
i could probably split it into 2 or more parts.
@Cofty
As I clearly state in the most recent addition (while being the first writing), this one is based on my personal experiences, knowledge, and feelings on the matter. We know the Bible has been tampered with, because we've caught the church with its hand in the cookie jar. We can only imagine what we don't know. Much like ancient Egypt engaged in rewriting its history, we can only guess at what they succeeded in covering up. I know a few things in the Bible aren't exactly kosher, but as a whole, it has the ring of truth to me.
I can honestly say, if the Qu'ran is accurate, I want nothing to do with that evil god. That is the god of fire-and-brimstone fundie wackos; not the god of the Bible. Knowing what I do about Judaism and church doctrine, it's obvious to me Muhammed picked from each and threw in some Genies and specious history about Satan: Voila! A new religion.
The Book of Mormon is even more obviously contrived and cobbled together. Parts are blatantly plagiarized from the KJV OT, even though the BoM was written at a time and place that English was virtually indistinguishable from its current form. It's pretty apparent that Joseph Smith just felt that's "how God talks" and wrote it that way. Even modern Mormons pray in old English, because the idea that it's "more holy" still holds.
i sat around researching, compiling, and writing this today.
i know it's long, but there's a lot of information in it.
i could probably split it into 2 or more parts.
Rather than start a new thread, I'll just add this. It's one I wrote a while back, but I updated it and uploaded it to Google documents today. I even made a tinyurl for it.
i just had to put that out there.
they have done so much behind my back since i nolonger want to be a part of the organization.
my one sister has a severe hatred, coupled with jealousy, for me.
The little thought bubble in the top, right corner will let you edit for 30 minutes.
Cults love the strength of numbers, which is why they congregate. JWs use the scripture in Hebrews to validate it, but that's a ruse. When someone insulates themselves from the real world and only surrounds themselves with like-minded people, it's like immersing one's self in a language. The subtle nuances and unspoken emotional aspects of cult mentality can't be taught, they can only be absorbed. This is good and bad: Unless you repeatedly expose yourself to the cult mindset, it won't easily rub off on you; at the same time, it's virtually impossible to identify to outsiders as evidence they're all nuts.
This is belief by committee and the vote is 4:1; you lost. This is how organized religion determines what is and isn't true, rather than evidence. The nuttier and less based in reality a cult is, the more they need to appeal to the authority of their leaders and appeal to the popularity within their closed group. Information control of the cult doesn't even allow them to know what the alternatives are or how nutty their stances are, in comparison.
during today's witchtower study there was so much wisdom.
coming forth from the conductor and those in attendance that.
i could only say to myself "can't they hear what they are saying?".
I wouldn't think they do it for free.......maybe just a little tittie teaser ........but the real stuff....can you get that for free ?
What'cha need? PM me. I found some great sites while using a MS's computer. He didn't know how to empty his browsing history and they'd autofill when I was searching for totally unrelated things.