Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Do we have "original" indipendent documents proving that Rutherford was an alcoholic?

by psyco in

i was wondering if you could prove with "original" independent documents that rutherford was an alcoholic.... .

i read penton, but since he is a former jw he could not be considered an independent source.... .

Vanderhoven7

Couldn't have been too fond of women.

Remember when the Lord's “physical mouthpiece”, Joseph Rutherford, called women “a stack of bones and a hank of hair” ...

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

Vanderhoven7

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

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JW s were here today with convention invite

by enoughisenough in

i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.

i am in the yard.

the gals get out and are wearing pants.

Vanderhoven7

This weekend: Here is a picture found on Facebook of one JW convention. Looks a bit sparse for the “fastest growing religion”.

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

Vanderhoven7

@ PeacefulPete

Can you provide where this Josephus quote is found?

3. Now, for the Pharisees, .....They also believe that souls have an immortal rigor in them, and that under the earth there will be rewards or punishments, according as they have lived virtuously or viciously in this life; and the latter are to be detained in an everlasting prison, but that the former shall have power to revive and live again; ....
4. But the doctrine of the Sadducees is this: That souls die with the bodies;............
5. The doctrine of the Essens is this: .... They teach the immortality of souls..........

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They must also change the treatment of those who dissociate themselves from the JWs. It is inevitable

by LaFrancia in

from reddit ex jw, a user posted this material of a hypothetical new light on dissociated people......i'm posting it only for the record, nothing else is known.

it seems that the topic has been deleted either by the moderators or by the user himself.

understanding dissociation in light of the scriptures.

Vanderhoven7

Imagine the reaction of parents who have shunned their dissociated adult children for the past 25 years?

If upset.....

Refer to the Slave's humble admission that they can err in organizational direction.

My take is that the original article was a submission to the GB, read and released by a PIMO who was fed up with the Org's nonsense.

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Who Are the "Other Sheep" and Jesus "Brothers" ?

by Sea Breeze in

watchtower plays lots of games with definitions.

once they change a definition then they have a false assumption to build their deception on.

then they repeat the new definition and use its new meaning thousands of times to reinforce it.

Vanderhoven7

The thief on the cross recognized that he was a sinner deserving of death.

He recognized the Jesus was LORD and called Him so.

He recognized that as LORD, He had the power to forgive sin.

He recognized that Jesus had a future beyond death.

He recognized that Jesus would be king of His kingdom come,

Because he recognized these things, he asked and received the promise of participation with the Lord Jesus Christ in that kingdom.

Jesus said that whosoever believed in Him would past from death to life and be free condemnation. Seems to me, the thief qualified.

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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's

by WingCommander in

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the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.

some highlights: .

1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).

Vanderhoven7

I thought the tribulation was supposed to start by the nations attacking false religion.

Wait...perhaps this is the one prediction they got right.

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Watchtower Dishonesty

by Vanderhoven7 in

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just re-discovered this gem:.

"it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.

older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.