What is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the Memorial?
Is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?
If so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing Jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?
Posts by Alfred
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19Question for elders about MEMORIAL EMBLEMS...
by Alfred inwhat is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the memorial?.
is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?.
if so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?.
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Attention: Active JWs who post videos on YouTube...
by Alfred in...specifically, those who tend to block the comments field:.
if you are firmly convinced that you have the truthtm and that nothing anybody says can convince you that you really dont, why do you find it absolutely necessary to block anyone from posting their comments?.
what you are doing, essentially, is preventing viewers from examining all the evidence as the bible clearly mandates in deu 18:20-22, 1 tes 5:21, 1 john 4: 1, etc.. so why not allow people to scrutinize all the comments and work out their own conclusions?
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Alfred
...specifically, those who tend to BLOCK the Comments field:
If you are firmly convinced that you have “The Truth TM ” and that nothing anybody says can convince you that you really don’t, why do you find it absolutely necessary to block anyone from posting their comments?
What you are doing, essentially, is preventing viewers from examining ALL the evidence as the Bible clearly mandates in Deu 18:20-22, 1 Tes 5:21, 1 John 4: 1, etc.. So why not allow people to scrutinize all the comments and work out their own conclusions? If you really do have “The Truth TM ”, then people will tend to gravitate towards your conclusion on the matter being presented on your video. In fact, you will get a lot more positive comments than negative comments (if you present truthful information).
Also, by blocking comments, you are really demonstrating an extreme lack of faith in Jehovah and thereby doubting that your “Truth” can withstand any comment that is posted on your video.
Just something to think about…
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I love my Congregation and Can't Wait for the District Assembly!
by laverite inhello my fellow jwners.
i have been going the local unitarian church off and on for a few years.
my kids and i go regularly now and love it.
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Alfred
Awesome!... thanks for sharing...
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Noo Lite!
by hoser inthere is noo lite on page 19 of the june 15/12 watchtower.. .
from the perspective of bible prophecy, then,.
the seventh world power did not become established.
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Alfred
When the f**k is the "beginning of the Lord's day"? October 2, 1914? ... notice how they no longer get specific on dates...
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Regular Pioneers no longer appointed by Branch!
by hoser ina letter was read this thursday from the platform that the branch will no longer approve or remove regular pioneers.. it was called a simplified arrangement that the local body of elders would decide who should be appointed or removed as a regular pioneer and then to inform the branch of any appointments/deletions.
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i guess the bethelite who had that assignment is now unemployed.
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Alfred
elderelite... mail can be slow in some parts of the world... maybe this guy is on the North Pole?
Thanks for clearing that up...
hoser?
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Regular Pioneers no longer appointed by Branch!
by hoser ina letter was read this thursday from the platform that the branch will no longer approve or remove regular pioneers.. it was called a simplified arrangement that the local body of elders would decide who should be appointed or removed as a regular pioneer and then to inform the branch of any appointments/deletions.
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i guess the bethelite who had that assignment is now unemployed.
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Alfred
Besides saving money and making the Brooklyn brass less responsable, I think the expectation with this new arrangement is that more Publishers will become Regular Pioneers (since elders no longer have to think twice before sending in their recommendations)... Also, this will give elders the green light to harass Publishers into becoming Regular Pioneers since, at the end of the day, most elders just want to make the CO happy (IMHO)...
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June 15, 2012 described events that had not happened yet.
by discreetslave insomeone on a facebook group pointed out how the june 15 2012 study wt commented on publishers pioneering this month.
this magazine was written before march.. .
page 23 .
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Alfred
At the end of each day, it gives a dedicated Christian great satisfaction to be able to say, "Jehovah, I did everything I could in your service."
In other words...
If you have not submitted your dirty-thirty application this month, you're a loser and your service to the Governing Body Jehovah is unacceptable.
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Regular Pioneers no longer appointed by Branch!
by hoser ina letter was read this thursday from the platform that the branch will no longer approve or remove regular pioneers.. it was called a simplified arrangement that the local body of elders would decide who should be appointed or removed as a regular pioneer and then to inform the branch of any appointments/deletions.
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i guess the bethelite who had that assignment is now unemployed.
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Alfred
There are about 100 branches worldwide (and shrinking)... so that's about 100 bethelites kicked to the curb...
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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Alfred
YES... This is one teaching that NO analytical JW can look someone in the eye and say that they firmly believe Jesus was referring to TWO Overlapping Generations of Annointed Ones... yet the GB has managed to stretch Matthew 24:34 beyond any remotely credible interpretation...
But I think they are absolutely embarassed to repeat this more than necessary because it is a lot less sustainable than the previous 7 definitions in the last 20 years...
Also, notice the amount of times the word "Generation" is mentioned in the WT magazine...
50's 529 times
60's 624 times
70's 607 times (with noticeable spike in 1974)
80's 428 times
90's 408 times
00's 168 times
2010-2019 (trending towards a low number around 65)
By the 2020's, the Watchtower will have completely revamped their "dooms-day" recuitment strategy using some other Biblical "prophecy" (throwing the generation teaching back in the freezer).
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Regular pioneering ... not going to college or university is a wise decision that will make you happy. Watchtower June 15, 2012
by wannabefree infrom - the watchtower (simplified) june 15, 2012 pg.
25 par.
15. what goal should a young christian have while he is in school?.
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Alfred
With contributions drying up rather quickly, the Watchtower desparately needs NEW ignorant followers so they can embark on their next phase of real estate flipping (with hard-working free labor)...
The last thing they need right now are college educated thinkers who can detect their scams a mile away...