Posts by antes8080

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Source material for elders school

by billyboy in

elders & ms have been told to study the following material before the school.. elders.......... organised to do gods will (od) chapter 7. shepherd the flock of god (ks10) chapters 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11. benefit from theocratic education pages 47-51. ministerial servants........ organised to do gods will (od) pages 78-83 & 93-102 & chapter 7. benefit from theocratic education (be) pages 47-51. .

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antes8080

wow that sound fun what about the other chapters??

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A difference between 2009 Annual Report and 2010 Annual Report

by Gayle in

in 2009 annual meeting report, the report was given of these stats:.

u.s. 7/09 new peak in pubs and again in 8/09 land mark of 1,154,275 pubs.

making a 4% increase over last year.

antes8080

i have some stats and there has been some growth and is not in the ing side at all the only reason there has been any growth in the U.S is couse of the spanish side there were 52 new cong last year 46 were spanish cong 4 other languages and 2 ing... so as long as there hispanics in the U.S they will be growth in my area they were 4 new spanish cong last year and four more in this cooming year there lots of ignorance in the spanish side the meethings averege 150...

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New here..

by breakfree in

just wanted to introduce myself.

i've been reading your posts for a couple of months now and i think i finally have the courage to join in.

i have written and deleted this post many times.

antes8080

welcome

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New Watchtower Quotes : Feel the Love and Anger and Deception

by brotherdan in

from the january 2011 kool aid edition wt:.

paragraph 8: "still, as a people,the chosen ones and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate christendom by taking refuge in jehovah and his mountainlike organization.".

paragraph 9: "christendom deserves the coming destruction for contributing to the spiritual illiteracy common among churchgoers and for its manifest hatred of gods name.".

antes8080

Paragraph 5: Consider the example of two of our sisters in
Malawi. In an effort to get them to buy political
party cards, a violent mob beat, stripped, and
threatened to rape them. The mob lyingly told
them that even the members of the Bethel family
had obtained party cards. The sisters’ response?
“We serve only Jehovah God. So if the
brothers at the branch office have bought cards,
that does not make any difference to us. We will
not compromise, even if you kill us!” After taking
that courageous stand, the sisters were released

that is sad "even if you kill us" the org is the one reasponsible of blood but hey jehova has not been a great example him and his son have killed enough of ppl them selfs so they follow there lead...

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Further Education and the Special Assembly Day

by eyesthatsee in

i had the misery recently of attending the sad.. the bethel speaker looked and sounded like the usual corporate businessman after your money.. during his main talk, he praised a recent bethel member who left his college (aka university) course early to pioneer and join bethel.. that followed experiences from window cleaners, unemployed, parents home-schooling (aka child abuse - it is a basic human right to be educated) their kids and those baptised as children (youngest was 10).. the brainwashed dubs applauded every ruined life paraded on the platform.. these bethel speakers have been around long enough to know exactly what they're doing - they are evil men, ruining peoples' lives, breaking up families and masquerading as holy men.. their time will come when they face god - too late for the many ruined by their filthy lies and false hopes.. sorry to sound bitter, but to my shame i had a part in this cult as an elder.

what part of my brain did i lose to not see through this rubbish?.

better late then never though.

antes8080

most ppl are not really paying close attention to what is saying on this talk and demonstrations they just clap and say yes to everything like nice great cult

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Will there ever be another defection from the GB?

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

ray franz decided to leave bethel and the governing body because he could not continue to promote or support the lies and half truths that were being told.

do you think that it is possible that one of the new boys might actually grow a pair of balls and stand up for what is true and reject what is false?.

there are so many doctrines that time has annulled.

antes8080

i met a couple of them and the only one that was humble was david splane he did call old ppl murmururs but he was really nice when i talk to him he even told me to pray for them couse they were not perfect and there tryng there best, so i taught that was nice... met morrison and losch and both of them are jerks walk around like if they christ shakimng hand like if they are obama it was just sickining... so yes i do think one or two are going to split of the GB...

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How to prepare for a JC defense

by brotherdan in

many of you have heard this recording, but i wanted to post it again for some of you (bottleofwater) that will possibily be in jc's soon.

rick townsend does an excellent job (imo) of attempting to defend his position to the elders.

in nearly every category his arguments are stronger.. it is a bit frustrating to listen to because of the elders lack of reasoning ability, but rick is amazing.

antes8080

first time i have heard this and this JC taping is great

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Thought stopper: "We are the only ones doing what Jesus did."

by sabastious in

this is one of the top thought stopping phrases here.. it invalidates any argument presented against the organization.

it basically says this:.

"it doesn't matter who did what in the org, it doesn't matter how bad things get, we are the only ones doing what jesus did, therefore all errors and corruption are disregarded as we await the end.".

antes8080

yeah door to door dont work or doing street work just couse you preach dont mean your doing jesus work.... i started thinking alot when in elder said 1 out of 70 studies beacome jw thats not gd at all... so i guess jehovah dosent whant alot ppl to get save and get to paradise

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ELDERS want to meet with me?

by Smoky in

its been about 5 years since i've talked to the elders in the my old congregation.

now the elders from my parents congregation, want to come by and talk with me (sheperding call?).

i know one of them, i believe they feel obligated since i llive in there territory.

antes8080

yeah dont talk to them... tell them you will give them a call when the GT comes

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It's OK Lurkers, Paranoid former JW's, and even you current JW's....

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

it's ok.... to post here on the internet, on jwn, and other jw related forums.. first of all, as we all know, the governing body doesn't provide a forum for jw's to "associate" with their brothers and sisters.

i'm just guessing, and i could be wrong, that its harder to control the flock when they have free access to information and each other.

damn electricity and the technology it brings..... anyway, i realize that for anyone leaving, or for practicing jw's, to post is a nervous thing.

antes8080

i was super scare to post on this site i had been lurking for years not only have i learn lots of things i also laugh alot on this forum and like they "laughter is the best medicine".. so now i can say that am adictid to this site and the great info and for opening many eyes to the lies....