My friend was counseled by an elder for wearing shorts he considered "too short" when he stopped by unannounced at her house. She didn't even have the freedom to wear whatever she wanted in her own home!
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Absurd WT Control in April 2012 KM
by LostGeneration inyeah in the section on attending the convention, you will find this gem:.
"therefore, we should give attention to our dress and grooming while in the convention city, including when we check in at the hotel.
arriving in shorts and a t-shirt would not reflect dignity.".
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Absurd WT Control in April 2012 KM
by LostGeneration inyeah in the section on attending the convention, you will find this gem:.
"therefore, we should give attention to our dress and grooming while in the convention city, including when we check in at the hotel.
arriving in shorts and a t-shirt would not reflect dignity.".
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Ok, so my inlaws now have to drive 7 hours in their meeting clothes in 30-40 degree C (86-100 F) in order to be dignified? Or stop somewhere so they can change before they check into the hotel? What a bunch of garbage.
We also had a special needs part about not wearing flip flops or other "distracting, noisy sandals" or noisy jewelry.
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I've had a couple people apologize to me years later for being mean to me during my school years. And I've apologized to my best friend and sister for shunning them.
And my Mom recently apologized for raising me as a JW which was nice.
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marriage without affection/sex/touching
by zeb inyes thats my situation.
some where along the path of life the wt guilt trip was dumped on our marriage and we havent had sex for years.. anyone else?
the hearts and flowers and gifts and doing the cleaning, the house work and paying the daily accounts never being drunk on drugs playing the horses or screwing others yep its all there but nothing coming back due to the wt guilt trip.. they made so much of 'oral sex' and 'pornea' incorrectly quoted at that and ventured thereby into areas they were patently very ill equipped to comment on.
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thecrushed - w83 3/15 pg 31
"...What, though, if one mate wants or even demands to share with his or her partner in what is clearly a perverted sex practice? The above-presented facts show that porneia involves unlawful sexual conduct outside the marital arrangement. Thus, a mate’s enforcing perverted acts, such as oral or anal sex, within the marriage would not constitute a Scriptural basis for a divorce that would free either for remarriage. Even though a believing mate is distressed by the situation, yet that one’s endeavor to hold to Scriptural principles will result in a blessing from Jehovah. In such cases it may be helpful for the couple to discuss the problem frankly, bearing in mind especially that sexual relations should be honorable, wholesome, an expression of tender love. This certainly should exclude anything that might distress or harm one’s mate.—Ephesians 5:28-30; 1 Peter 3:1, 7.
As already stated, it is not for elders to “police” the private marital matters of couples in the congregation. However, if it becomes known that a member of the congregation is practicing or openly advocating perverted sex relations within the marriage bond, that one certainly would not be irreprehensible, and so would not be acceptable for special privileges, such as serving as an elder, a ministerial servant or a pioneer. Such practice and advocacy could even lead to expulsion from the congregation. Why?"When my parents came into "the truth" in the 80s, the couple studying with them told them they needed to stop having oral sex because it wasn't allowed. That would have been a red flag for me! Too bad I grew up thinking it was so evil and sinful. So happy not to feel that way anymore.
Sorry to hear about your situation Zeb. Did your wife tell you why she didn't want to read the books? Would she read a Dr. Laura Berman book? Is she depressed? My sex life is a work in progress, but it has definitely improved since abandoning my previous limiting religious beliefs.
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can of worms -ranting
by so confused inthe more i'm reading and thinking about what i have previously learned it just opens a whold new can of worms.. my husband and i have been reading/comparing the nwt, diaglot, reference bible, etc.
and i saw where the society added words, changed meaning, even added an entire sentence without ().
i have seen where they have emphasized sayings in the watchtower that are not in the bible like "paradise earth".
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It's amazing the change having children brings. I was afraid to have children in "this system" too and waited 7 years after we were married to have our first. I was depressed and knew that I wanted to raise our son with opportunities my husband and I didn't have as born-ins...especially being able to get a degree.
I'm a stay at home Mom too. Send me a PM if you like.
Have fun fundraising and being part of your community. I'm participating in a charity event for the first time as well. It should be fun!
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Catholics! Why did u choose your religion?
by umadevi ini went to a local catholic church on good friday with a catholic friend.
i observed that there was a lot of rituals involved.
i am interested to know why you choose this religion.
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Thank you Barry and Athanasius.
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can of worms -ranting
by so confused inthe more i'm reading and thinking about what i have previously learned it just opens a whold new can of worms.. my husband and i have been reading/comparing the nwt, diaglot, reference bible, etc.
and i saw where the society added words, changed meaning, even added an entire sentence without ().
i have seen where they have emphasized sayings in the watchtower that are not in the bible like "paradise earth".
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Welcome! It's so nice you and your husband are embarking on this new journey together. I was in a similar position 2 years ago, except my husband wasn't ready to leave the religion yet.
I shunned my sister for a few years, and didn't go to her wedding because she married a non believer. She wasn't even DF'd, but I shunned her. Years later, I contacted her, and she was so loving and forgiving. Since then we talk on the phone everyday and we are closer now than we were as children.
Maybe you could make another Facebook account just for you to contact your sister if you'd feel comfortable with that? I have a private group for me and my sister so we can share photos and talk without my JW inlaws seeing.
Wishing you light and love on your journey.
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Catholics! Why did u choose your religion?
by umadevi ini went to a local catholic church on good friday with a catholic friend.
i observed that there was a lot of rituals involved.
i am interested to know why you choose this religion.
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If you were baptized only as a JW, can you take Communion? I was thinking about going to an Anglican Church tomorrow to see what it's like. Do you have to give money too?
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Are You Ready for The Memorial?
by OnTheWayOut init's this week, folks.
i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.
many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.
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We're not going, despite getting a personal phone invite! I love how they call just once a year to "encourage" us. I feel bad for the elder, what a crappy job to have. I bet he hoped we wouldn't answer the phone. He even told us we could sit at the back and slip in and out if we felt uncomfortable going. I wanted to ask why we would feel uncomfortable being surrounded by Jehovah's loving people...but didn't want to give the poor guy a hard time.
I think I'll just watch this Memorial video instead:
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I would like some ideas on celebrating Easter
by umadevi inhi friends, this will be my first easter and i would like to make it memorable.
i have a 9 year old son.
any ideas?.
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There are really cute ideas on Pinterest. My boys are younger, but I plan on dying eggs ($1 for the kit at Walmart), and hiding plastic eggs around our yard filled with chocolates, jelly beans, fishy crackers, marshmallows, and Gerber puffs. I saw someone else post pics of their Easter baskets and am now going to the Dollar store to put something together.
There is a cute idea where you plant some jellybeans in dirt, and the next day it magically turns into a rainbow lollipop.
You could do a scavenger hunt to find the eggs, and have a little prize at the end. It's a great excuse to have fun! Happy Easter!
I remember looking for Easter eggs when I was 3, before we were JWs, and it was so much fun. I got a stuffed bunny rabbit too.