Interesting reading. But for me, I don't care if they DF'd me or not. I definately won't loose sleep over it.
1Robinella
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Even when you think you're out, you're not...
by undercover insometimes we debate about which is better - to fade...or to da/get dfd.. there are pros and cons to each method.
faders like to say that they're not playing by the rules and can still associate with family.
daers say that they are totally free and can speak their mind and celebrate their holidays as they see fit with absolutely no retributinos.. i see the advantages of both sides and understand why one chooses one path over another.
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My JW wife wanted to throw a costume party. Any advice.
by garyneal into all active and former witnesses (elders especially), i have a question.. .
she indicated that she wanted to include her witness friends as well.
however, given the fact that we are in the month of october and costume parties in this month are associated with halloween, she did not know how to throw a costume party without making it look like a halloween party.
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1Robinella
Sorry but costume partys with a bible theme? Borinnnngggg. Besides everyone looks like they are in robes and no one really knows who anyone is anyway. DON"T DO BIBLE THEME PARTYS PEOPLE.
Around 91'ish I was invited to a graduation party at a rented hall for all the teenagers that were graduating. It was a chance for all the young people to hang out, of course, supervised...it was a costume party. We all had fun and everyone wore whatever they wanted. My friend back then wore the skin tight cat suit from batman, someone else was the joker, one couple wore the beauty and the beast costume. They had a costume contest and the beauty and the beast won. They played music, dancing, we had a water ballon fight towards the end of the night. It was great. Although some of the JW's that were not invited (on purpose, because they are uptight) were so offended that a week later they had a "special talk" about get-togethers and dressing in charactors. Funny cause if they were not at the party how would they know what went on anyway?
I say, have a party. Make it halloween. Obviously your spouse wants to do it. Why are JW's so afraid of the supernatural anyway? Again, it's fear that runs the organization. Good luck. I just bought some halloween decor today...woohoo fun
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Dating a JW for 3 yrs
by justbreathe825 inmy bf and i are thinking on getting married.
i posted a foum early this week on whether or not i should get baptized.
i decided not to.. now even though he says he "doesn't care" he got upset last night when i mentioned the subject and how confused i was.
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1Robinella
No easy answer for this...but
If problems such as this are happening before you get married, on such a personal topic, like religion. In my belief, religion is such a personal, private thing..no one can force you into. Those are the signs to sit down with him and lay it all out or break up. If this guy really loves you he will accept your stand, tell his parents to back off and you will probably be very happy together. But unfortunately, it sounds like his parents are pressuring him or maybe his own conscience is. To me, it sounds like your boyfriend wants the best of both worlds by dating a non-believer (not baptized JW) and yet wants you to convert to JW thinking which ultimately turns into baptizm for you so that he can marry you. Humm...you've got a lot of thinking to do for yourself. I am happy to hear that your standing up for yourself and do not let him guilt you into anything.
I just do not understand why a member of the JW organization would date outside the organization and force/guilt them into this religion in order to get married. Infact, what you could tell your boyfriend "Why did you choose to date me knowing I was not part of your organization? Now three years later we are talking about marriage and your expecting me to get baptized you knew who I was before we were dating.." Something like that.
"...and they want you to be religious in order to be close to you.."
What the heck? Why can't people just be good to each other without such nonsense? So they can only be close to you IF you convert? Give me a break.
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Just saw a scientology ad on this forum
by sabastious in...the google ad admin needs to filter known cults out of the ad circulation!.
(tom cruise is still a good actor tho).. (...and come to think of it john travolta looks terrible these days!).
-sab.
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1Robinella
Scientology Yikes! .....(that's me running away)....
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So, what is a glutton
by ldrnomo innoticed this in the shepherd the flock book in chapter five.. it's a list of things that would merit a judicial committee.. this was one of the things on the list:.
19. gluttony: (prov.
23:20, 21; w04 11/1 pp.
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1Robinella
Isn't that we do around the holidays. lol. I do. I eat everything, gain 10 pounds then start running in January
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My son said his first swear word!
by brotherdan in...and it couldn't have been funnier.
i got home from work last night and he ran up to hug me as usual.
he started walking away and said, "i'm thristy.
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1Robinella
Hilarious. Even more funny if he decided to raise his hand at the meeting and do it. Just hilarious.
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My Story: Short Version
by In ini... well, i need to face this fear that someone will read my story and know who i am and harrass me.
there are enough distinctive things about my story that who i am is pretty easy to identify, if you know me.. so, here goes.. i was raised as a witness.
my dad was abusive.
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1Robinella
Welcome In.
Your story although unique is quite similar to many. Continue your education, be happy and make lots of friends. You have just gained many more on this board. We all have see it all, been through it and stronger for it as well. For me, I am so happy to find this site. It's been a blast reading everyone's comments and learning about other people's struggles and accomplishments, although unfortunate it's quit similar to mine. Enjoy reading.
1Robinella
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I was wrongfully Disfellow shipped out...help
by pes0210 inin 04 i was brought before a comitee of 3 elders and admited to sex before marriage, given my situation at the time i fell short, i showed repentance for it and they said they were going to recomend i leave for awhile to find myself spiritually...(wow the only time they got one right) i did find myself spiritually through other means.
now i have a question since i no longer want to be a part of this organization and i was cast out from it, shouldnt my records with my personal information be destroyed?
if its in a file that i do not want to exist?
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1Robinella
I do know that they do clean out the files and keep current stuff (my father-in-law was an elder I asked him once). As far as I know, they do not keep such records (It's not like a courthouse and it's dictated word for word) but it seems that every KH keeps own records. But probably the only thing they have on you is the date you were DF'd and why. But no details and your address/phone number unless you've moved since then, then I wouldn't worry too much. Remember that (at least at my old hall) that the elders would move away or start attending a different congregation. Probably the only information the would have of you is if you still have family in "the truth" that keep giving them your current information so they can do a drop by. My mom does that to me every so often. I hate that. If that happens open the door with a cig and cocktail and welcome them in. lol
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Are you a meat-and-potatoes kind of guy/gal?
by compound complex in.
or is tofu your bag?.
coco ambivalent.
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1Robinella
I love a good steak. I tried having vegan or vegetarian friends but they were too rude at dinner time always complaining about my steak, giving weird faces and pretending that they were going to throw up. Besides they always looked unhealthy and their clothes seemed to hang on them. lol. Sorry to all the vegans. Maybe those people I knew were a little extreme. I assume not everyone is like that. (I hope). lol I like my steak cooked well done, no blood. with lots of carbs. Yum I'm gettin' hungry now. I also love salads and anything grown and a nice ice cold beer to go with it.
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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs
by Libelle init's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.
now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.
but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.
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1Robinella
I agree with Ding..To me the best education for a child is exposing them to all different types of religion. For me, I have JW bibles (my grandmothers), Catholic bibles etc. You understand? I figure that religion is a personal choice and when I have a child I'd want my child to make own decision when they grow up. If they don't believe in a god, fine. If they are wanting to join the Jewish religion, fine. I cannot in my mind, make my child convert to whatever thinking I may have. To me, the responsibility of a parent is to show them many options. A well informed person can make wise decisions. I want my child to accept other people's beliefs and to never force religion on other people unlike the JW religion that was forced down my throat.
In this case I think your doing right. "How to keep them always thinking rather than never questioning?"
Good for you.
Stay very involved. When the time comes and they ask questions, listen, think before answering and then reply. Keep the communication open and light hearted. I'd talk to the Mr. or at least drop hints that: "Children need to grow up well rounded and informed to make sound decisions later in life...or...Lets find out what the children feel inside of them, what their heart says rather than forcing them to convert to JW thinking." Little comments may slowly melt into the Mr. head and he can start having a mind of his own?? I donno. Just a thought. As far as step children, that can be tricky. Are both biological parents JW? The whole step parent thing is tough. I know cause I have a 16 year old step child. AHHHH! If the children have neighbor friends or school friends that they play with after school, if they are invited for sleep overs, let them go. This to me, is the best way children can see how other people live. It exposes them to other cultures. For example my step child has a friend that is Jewish and before dinner they do their Jewish thing. (I can't remember what they do) lol. But anyway, it's a good thing. In my case, my mother never ever let me stay the night at a non-believers home and the odds of me becoming a JW was evident early on.
Hope this helps. lol