With the recent new light, at least the older JWs now believe that they will remain married to their spouses after resurrection in the new world and they will still be either female or male. The GB does give them some things at times.
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Is this a new "This Generation" or not?
by Doug Mason infirst of all i want to express my sincere gratitude to atlantis and his good friends for making this 2014 book available.. ------------.
as i see it, and i am absolutely open to contradiction, the wts appears to be giving another new meaning to this generation.
this time the term means all of his anointed followers, including his immediate disciples.
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Want a good laugh?
by ilikecheese inhttp://www.conservativerefocus.com/index.php/2014/06/09/jehovah-s-witness-organization-now-promoting-one-world-government-and-need-for-new-world-leader.
someone on my facebook posted this.
some dummy got a pamphlet that talked about the convention, the "one world government and who can lead" pamphlet.
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I'm sorry but i've gone past seeing the funny side to this. There are a number of ex JWs that believe the WTBTS is involved in a so called coming of a New World Order. It sounds like the writer of this blog is also an ex JW.
It's even been discussed on this forum a number of times. Some believe in the idea that Russell was connected to the Freemasons and that the WTBTS still is. They also believe that the WTBTS is part of the Illuminati. Both these things have been said to be driving the push for a One World Government.
For a time the WTBTS tried to distance itself from using the term One World Government or the New World Order. It is disturbing that they brought out this pamphlet using that term.
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Want a good laugh?
by ilikecheese inhttp://www.conservativerefocus.com/index.php/2014/06/09/jehovah-s-witness-organization-now-promoting-one-world-government-and-need-for-new-world-leader.
someone on my facebook posted this.
some dummy got a pamphlet that talked about the convention, the "one world government and who can lead" pamphlet.
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They are talking about Jesus but this just demonstrates how deceptive they can be in order to capture the interest of others.
God's kingdom is not a Wordly Government it is a heavenly rulership. I knew there was something that disturbed me about the phrase that they use (One World Government) but couldn't put my fingure on it until your post.
Problem is that when the organization gets too tricky with their talk this is the fallout.
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Rape - the WTBTS's interpretation
by Listener inthis is from the insight book under rape.
rape is defined as unlawful sexual intercourse without the womans consent, effected by force, duress, intimidation, or deception as to the nature of the act.. .
what is really disturbing about this definition is that rape apparently only happens when there is a woman involved.
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This is from the Insight book under Rape
Rape is defined as unlawful sexual intercourse without the woman’s consent, effected by force, duress, intimidation, or deception as to the nature of the act.
What is really disturbing about this definition is that rape apparently only happens when there is a woman involved. There is no mention of children or males.
When you read their articles on rape the majority of the time they are discussing women being raped and then apply the counsel that they need to scream. They use the laws under the old law covenant to substantiate this. They really have a one eyed view on this.
I am wondering if they tell children to scream when they unfortunately find themselves in bad situations?
If you asked a JW female what is the first thing you would do if you were being molested I am sure they would immediately respond with 'I would scream'. I wonder if this is the first thing a JW child would say, I doubt it but why is that?
I am not supporting their view of screaming as being the most important thing to do in order to show your innocence but it concerns me that once again, there is a double standard.
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Chautauqua Salute makes a comeback at the Indianapolis Regional convention 7/13/14
by dropoffyourkeylee inas the regional convention ended in indianapolis, mark sanderson invited all the international delegates to come out onto the field for the final song.
as they walked out, they all held a white handkerchief aloft as they waved.
some in the audience waved a white cloth in return.
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I wonder if this will become commonplace. It is very ceremonial and reminds me of the Catholic Church.
It would be interesting to find out the reasoning as to why it was originally dropped as a practice by the JWs.
Here is the history of this salute
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RE-branding, is the WT going to be a completely new religion in a few years?
by Crazyguy inthier pushing jw.org and thiers speculation that the name watchtower is going by by.
also they may even drop the name jehovah referencing the new bible at pages 1735-37 i believe.
do you think that the names jehovah's witnesses, watchtower, are going away to be replaced by another?
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EOM, in the October 2014 they've printed an artist's impression of the future Warwick headquarters and there is the Watchtower symbol on the building (just the tower).
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Watchtower Oct 15 2014
by Listener inthe october watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
regarding the new covenant they write.
the governing body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like jesus and as humans they are sinless in god's eyes.. then on page 24 they state this.
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Thanks for the scripture Sarahsmile.
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Watchtower Oct 15 2014
by Listener inthe october watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
regarding the new covenant they write.
the governing body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like jesus and as humans they are sinless in god's eyes.. then on page 24 they state this.
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The October Watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
Regarding the New Covenant they write
The Governing Body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like Jesus and as humans they are sinless in God's eyes.
Then on page 24 they state this
Appropriate direction on how best to do this work is provided through God’s organization. This may at times mean being given new assignments of work.
8 Faithful servants of Jehovah have always been eager to submit to theocratic direction. (Read Hebrews 13:7, 17.) We may initially lack full understanding of the reasons for carrying out our assigned work in a particular way. Nevertheless,we are fully aware of the benefits of cooperating with Jehovah in any adjustments that he sees fit to make.
Cedars produced a great Youtube on this quote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Jle2LzxD0&list=UUz1w0ll081JJiYcjb298pOw
This is similar to what they have said before. They do make it clear here that any changes are not their changes but are changes made by God himself. This is more than saying that they are speaking for God because they are the ones making the changes, not God and yet they are saying it is God making the changes.
It would appear that they are telling the r& f to accept the changes they have already made to date and they make this comment
In recent years, a number of branch offices have been merged with others. Though such changes require that the brothers and sisters serving at these branches make adjustments, before long the advantages of the changes become clear to all involved. (Eccl. 7:8) What a joy it is for such willing workers to play a part in the ongoing history of Jehovah’s people!
They make the claim that the advantages of closing the Branch offices have become clear to everyone involved. What a big fat lie and they don't even substantiate it, I don't think they've even explained why there was a need to close all these branches. If this were true there would be absolutely no need to write the above in the first place. They are terrible manipulators.
They do provide some quotes from a few dubs that have accepted the changes and includes -
Dayska says: “When I remembered that the invitation came from Jehovah, I accepted it gladly.”
Again we have the Governing Body confirm that direct instructions that they issue are not from them but are from God. Any wrong decisions that they have made are there not from them but are from God.
We told ourselves, ‘When faced with Jehovah’s winds of change, it is better to set your sails than to build barriers.’ ”
"God's winds of change" - talk about an uncertain God and one that is left to the whims of a bunch of men who decide what his people will and won't do for his people at any given time.
This magazine represents the 100th year to the month of Chirst's rulership - again we have to ask, what rulership is this?
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Governing Body Will Get to Kill Worldly People at Armageddon! Gods Kingdom Rules Quote
by lostnotfound inso scanning through the gods kingdom rules i found this gem on page 228.. .
"in heaven, the 144,000 corulers with christ will recieve authority to share with jesus in weilding an "iron rod" of destruction against all enemies of gods kingdom.
( rev 2 26,27) then, together with powerful angels, the resurrected anointed ones will follow christ, the warrior king, as he sets out to confront the "vast army" of enemies that is closing in on its prey - jehovahs people.".
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This puts a whole different perspective on the need to obey the Governing Body because each one of those guys will be in heaven destroying those who don't obey them now, on judgement day.
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NOT learning from mistakes is a sign of STUPIDITY (psst GB--are you listening?)
by Terry in1873 [six thousand years of man's existence ends in a.d. 1873] {wr apr 1880 88} .
1873 "here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of adam to a.d. 1873 was six thousand years.
and though the bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of christ's reign, the great sabbath day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation.. if, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in a.d. 1873, be proving that we are already in it.
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I doubt it was stupidity that caused them to make the same error. Rehashing the 6,000 year idea got them many results that they were seeking. This included increased hours in field service, higher numbers being recruited and an expectation that drove the Witnesses on. They also sold many more books and magazines than they otherwise would have done.