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How would you respond to this defense made on behalf of The Watchtower's Child Abuse lawsuits?

by adjusted knowledge in

details of the society's child abuse policies have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request.

press releases issued by the watch tower society's office of public information confirm that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.

our families jehovahs witnesses and child protection.

Listener

the elders receive proper legal direction to ensure that they comply with the law. Additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.

They say that they take these issues very seriously. Then why do they provide access to the legal department to elders only? What actual support do they give members who want to report the issue to authorities? Although they have changed their actions by not hindering the member to go to the police they are doing nothing to actively support the member, whereas they are actively helping the elders in dealing with the matter even if it is to a limited extent. These are members that have come to them to help deal with the matter, I doubt any JW would expect that the elders dealt with the matter on a spiritual basis only but they don't realize that they are not getting any practical help whatsoever.

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Wt today and funding special pioneers

by Daisychaindream in

jw
friends

does anyone else feel like it was just a way to beg for donations!!!.

the society gives them a minimal wage to preach 130 hours so we should be the ones sending them money and good and clothes.

it's not like they help the community they go to, i've known missionaries when i was younger who were in deepest darkest soith america in villages with no water, instead of passing in skills and worthwhile tools they just study then go home.

Listener

Sorry to hear that. At least they were outside the hall. The saying 'a fool and his money are soon parted' comes to mind.

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The embarrassing history of the misnomer called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

by Terry in

jw
friends

the scriptures portray a person named stephen who is termed the first "martyr.

" the greek word means "witness.".

( greek : , martys , "witness"; stem -, martyr- ).

Listener

Great post.

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Wt today and funding special pioneers

by Daisychaindream in

jw
friends

does anyone else feel like it was just a way to beg for donations!!!.

the society gives them a minimal wage to preach 130 hours so we should be the ones sending them money and good and clothes.

it's not like they help the community they go to, i've known missionaries when i was younger who were in deepest darkest soith america in villages with no water, instead of passing in skills and worthwhile tools they just study then go home.

Listener

I don't think this is the usual process. You could ask them if their fund has been sanctioned by the elders in the congregation and whether they have registered this fund with the appropriate authorities.

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A fourth generation JW on the way

by Xanthippe in

to my nephew,.

your other aunt phoned my non-jw cousin, so i know your wife is expecting a baby in the new year.

congratulations!

Listener

Xanthippe, I didn't pick up on that, sorry.

I hope that he is here and that he takes your advice. Having children is a very important time to reflect on what one hopes and plans for that child. Certainly the JW religion restricts many things that we may otherwise aim for on behalf of our children.

I know of some JW families that are not preventing their children from higher education but when the father is in a prominent position they are not likely afforded this opportunity. The father can lose his position if he allows his children to recieve higher education.

I don't know if your nephew does hold any positions in the religion and if he does, or may in the future, he should consider how much time this will take away from enjoying a full family life. My father was an elder and we saw so little of him, he was usually sitting in his office and working on various JW duties, including study, public talk presentations and various other responsibilities. We had very little fun times, just doing things together.

We weren't allowed to do any out of school activities like sport and it was probably just as well as he would not have had the time to drive us around let alone watch us.

It is worth the time to investigate the religion, both its past and its beliefs as he now has the responsibility of teaching his own child.

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A fourth generation JW on the way

by Xanthippe in

to my nephew,.

your other aunt phoned my non-jw cousin, so i know your wife is expecting a baby in the new year.

congratulations!

Listener

Sorry, but there is no way I would send this letter, there is too much bible bashing and it is not going to reach out to a JW.

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One day Circuit Assembly Review !!

by DATA-DOG in

it sucked!!.

so what's going on in the borg!?

what have you missed??

Listener

Let's not forget that marujanna also leads to homsexuality.

W 73 3/15

We ask: Marihuana, ‘an approach to paradise’? Homosexuality and suicide—instant paradise?......

It might be added that a marked characteristic of marihuana users, particularly females, was the unusual degree of sexual promiscuity, both with individuals of the opposite sex and of the same sex. This was true among those who had engaged in no sexual promiscuity before using marihuana. The incidence of venereal diseases was high.

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New Awake! Dealing With Mental Illness

by runForever in

contains a list of 9 practical steps except they forgot one: 10. do not become a jehovah's witness.. .

1. follow the treatment prescribed.

by qualified mental-health.

Listener

There's an interesting article W 88 10/15 dealing with mental illnesses. It does have a more considerate view of mental illnesses and it encourages elders to be of assistance and if it is serious then professional help is called for. Then it goes way off track with the following statement

So if the elders have good reason to suspect that demonic influence is involved, there is no harm in their making some inquiry. Has the person, for example, received any suspicious items directly and deliberately from individuals who are involved in some form of demonism? Disposal of such objects may bring relief. (Acts 19:18-20) Since Christians are told to “oppose the Devil,” the elders can also advise the afflicted one to reject any strange “voices” that could be of demonic origin. (James 4:7; Matthew 4:10) If a person feels under attack, he should pray fervently, calling upon Jehovah’s name out loud.—Ephesians 6:18; Proverbs 18:10.

Demonic involvement, however, appears to be the exception

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