I just watched a Youtube where a non JW approached a young lady next to a WTBTS literature cart. He asked her what was she doing, she replied "I am placing literature with genuinely interested bible students". This is the type of language we had to conform to rather than sincerely trying to reach people.
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what type of faith do you REALLY want?
by atheist_R_stupid ini find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.
it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?
" and the man says "whats an rdo?".
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WTS leader rants against higher education
by hoser inon jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
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This talk is so Americanised with little regard to situations in other countries. Here in Australia most students do not need to move from their home and live on site, they can even do most, if not all, of their course online.
Strange how University aged students are now children, not even teenagers. It is hard to comprehend why the organization allows even teenagers to be baptized when it is still the parents responsibility for their spiritual care.
Morris says 'we don't need Dr's and Lawyers in the new system but we will need carpenters and plumbers and similar construction trades' then immediately goes on to say 'it requires faith and confidence that our [current] material needs will be cared for by training in other fields'.
So on one hand we can't have faith and confidence in God in the new system to provide, even though there will supposedly be resurrected ones with those skills as well as mankind will be perfect. Where in the bible does it mention that we need to be trained in skills that may be useful in the New World? Isn't Morris once again going beyond what the bible states and decides for himself what the will of God will be and orders his sheep to consider these things?
Brumley says all credit goes to God in their victories, it is not them and their own work, they see God's hand. If this is the case then they didn't need to become trained lawyers. They only proved that they are relying on earthly arrangements.
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Series of articles about the March 15, 2015 Watchtower on AD1914.com
by Gilgamesh inover the next 5 weeks, we should have 5 or 6 articles/posts that will provide more commentary on the march 15, 2015 watchtower.
important doctrinal changes in march 15th, 2015 watchtower (study edition) explained wp.me/p4cpzs-xo .
http://ad1914.com/2014/04/20/new-important-doctrinal-changes-in-march-15th-watchtower-study-edition-explained-clarified/.
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Marked, waiting for further articles on the linked site
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Ticket to Paradise - Modern JWs are so...ugh
by One Last Kiss injust saw this stomach churning mockup of a boarding pass to: 'paradise' from: 'world' o.o .
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what is wrong with these people?!.
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The airline charges too much and the ticket is non refundable, there are no female air hostesses, not enough toilet paper and the windows are blacked out.. Worst of all, the pilot can't keep to the right flight path because he either gets his calculations wrong or misunderstands the flight plan. -
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Pagan Origins
by tinker ina currently active jdub acquaintance occasionally stops by to say hello and we share a wee dram or two.
after the general small talk of new cars, exotic vacations and sports we often get into the "why" we are xjubs.
he is a well educated publisher who holds a phd in child psychology.
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Doc House
"Any of you SERIOUS? Doesn't LOOK that way.
RELIGIOUS pagan customs disguised as 'Christian' customs are what we avoid."
The act of getting married is very much a Christian custom and religious act.
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NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!
by Trailer Park Pioneer inthis is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?
the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.
i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?
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As usual there are several crazy reasonings on this idea.
It doesn't matter how many years passed between the creation of Adam and of Eve. In their theory they think Eve must have been created at the very end of the 6th day but the bible doesn't say this.
Another point is that the idea is based on each creative day as being 7.000 years long and they no longer teach this.
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Poster country flags and privacy
by Simon inthe new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).
before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.
first, the reason i think it should be shown:.
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If the flag is going to restrict what some posters would otherwise write it is not a good idea. Also if it is going to help in some way to identify somebody it also is not a good idea.
It doesn't bother me personally but I would also vote no.
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LDC Semininar
by Sour Grapes inldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .
entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.
oversight.
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Early Morning Informal Witnessing, Yay!!
by kairos inhow many of us would get up and "start your time" by 6:00am or earlier?.
i sure did my fair share and convinced many others to join me semi-regularly.. we'd stand out in front of "somewhere/something", you remember?.
donut shop, 7-11, liquor store ( genius ), driving to laundry rooms or coin-op's, etc... anyway, this past sunday i was pumping fuel for the long trip home early in the morning out of l.a. to norcal, when i spotted a young, energetic version of myself 20 years ago.
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Kairos, was that a keying error, was it really 6 hours? I'm interested to know what kind of impression you may have left him with. Your wife is so patient, you are a lucky man. I also wonder why she didn't hop out of the car and come and join you but I think I know why and it would seem that she really does know TTATT.
Thanks for sharing.
I stopped and talked to a JW elder in a Hong Kong Mall earlier this year. We had a great discussion and he was interested in listening and naturally added his reasoning on matters. He wanted my phone number in the end so I gave him my email address but he still has not emailed.
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The Way, a way of reason that generates a way of Life
by Traveler ini'm looking for those who have found the path/way of reason.
i include a few notes to those i have approached so far.
these past attempts seem too slow.
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I am wondering what your motives are for wanting to find another 'traveller"? I assume it is because you acknowledge you don't have all the answers and want to share ideas with another like minded person.
If you have found the right path then why aren't you trying to share it with as many as you can? I assume that is because if you found this path on your own (that is, without the knowledge shared by other humans) then it is not something another person can learn from another human being. Therefore it makes my first comment pretty pointless because you are not going to learn from a like minded person. If it is God who has enlightened you then surely he will keep you on the right path and share with you as much as you need to know.
What you have really done is learn from the Watchtower to a degree that you feel ready to accept, that is why you don't want to take them down, they served you a purpose and you think they may do the same for others. You've chosen to move onto a different path because you don't agree with everything they are teaching. This makes them false teachers and they are misleading millions. Why you would not want to take them down even though you believe you have secret knowledge that would enable you to do it easily. Would God really sanction an organization that allows 8 million people to be blinded for the sake of enabling a dozen or so to find the right path? Would God make it that difficult?