The organization goes into great depth explaining who shouldn't partake yet they can't explain how those who think they are anointed believe this to be so and they tell you it would be rude to ask them.
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The Last Supper
by Teddy ini have been studying with the jw since june of 2016 and they say only the ones who make up the 144.
000 and can partake of the bread and cup.
is this true?.
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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"
by Sanchy invideo is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
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Boroean Pickets has done a thorough review on this talk if you're interested
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What the Org Teaches #4 There Are Two Ways to Get Sins Wiped Out
by The Searcher in#4 there are two ways to get sins wiped outthe following five scriptures lay the foundation stone of christianity, namely, that christ died for people's sins.
virtually every christian denomination on earth accepts these bible statements without question: .
(matthew 26:28) "....this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.
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The org. also teaches that it depends on what sort of sin is being committed. 6 months ago there was a demonstration presented on the monthly JW broadcast and they classified sin into three groups, using bread loaves to demonstrate it
All loaves were slightly smeared with garlic powder, indicating that everyone was imperfect.
The first loaf was spoiled with a toxic dye and represented someone committing the unforgivable sin. This could not be removed and the loaf was useless and put in the rubbish binThe second loaf was muddied which represented an individual committing a gross sin. The muddied part could be cut off and the rest of the loaf was acceptable.
The third loaf was doused with an extra dose of garlic powder, this represented 'grieving the holy spirit' and was fixed by dusting the additional garlic powder off and it was then good to go.
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My Last Study Unit - Sigh!!! - If only I'd studied it 65 years ago
by fulltimestudent insemester 2 commences next monday, and the study unit i'm taking will be my last as a undergraduate.
i've spent 8 years wandering around asian (west and east) history, and i should have graduated a year ago, but mu now has a rule that all ugs must take a two units of study outside their field of study.. so starting monday i will apply my mind to the question implicit in the unit's title: .
why people believe weird things: making rational decision's in an irrational world.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
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If you get the chance, it would be great if you could post some of the highlights you come across or conclude.
I imagine that after 8 years you will miss your studies. Some people continue to study their whole life and find ways of contributing to society. -
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Just a little anecdote illustrating how out of touch the typical JW is
by sir82 inthis weeks book study lesson was on martha, the sister of lazarus.
the chapter in the "imitate their faith" book praised her for being "industrious".. the conductor at our congregation meeting was just positively gushing about how "industrious" modern-day jw women are.. he was so exciting, he could barely get the words out.
following is not an exact quote, but conveys the gist:.
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Xjwsrock, what upsets you more about the song, the words or the females, on display, dancing half naked?
Whenever I hear that song it reminds me of the Sadie vacuum cleaner, I can't remember what came first, the song or the vacuum cleaner. The song was really seen as just a bit of light hearted fun, I don't think anyone saw it as role playing.
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Syllabus
by Duncan inhaven't posted in years, but thought i would today, since something reminded me of this story..
it's 1970 in our london-suburb congregation and it's the circuit overseer visit.
as part of his talk on the saturday night this co - john anderson, anyone remember him?
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Thanks for the laugh Duncan.
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HOW the WatchTower leaders flipped the script on Christianity
by TerryWalstrom inworship of jesus was declared to be an act of idolatry!.
we are going to examine the cataclysmic changeover in christian teaching exploding inside the watchtower religion in the early 50’s by exploring a background of the history of jesus’ place in christianity.
jw teaching about the nature of jesus’ importance in the salvation of mankind will be compared with christian history.
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There is a lot to take in and the following comments just discuss one aspect.
There's a Youtuber who has just uploaded a video titled "Who or What is God's Channel?" He's not a JW but I think he wrote a paper on JWs as part of his Uni Studies and continues to be interested in the relgion.
In summary he states that according to the Watchtower you cannot question or challenge or disagree with that Chanel. Yet they are teaching things that are not true. Just reading the Finished Mystery will prove that.
He claims that God's channel of communication is not man or any group of men but it is through man and it is a matter of whether we, or anyone, utilizes his channel. His channel being his infallible word, the bible.
An example is when Peter helped the eunuch to understand the bible. Peter didn't act as the channel, the channel was the bible, Peter acted as a supplement. Peter explains what God's channel is saying.
He sees this viewpoint as much more bionically correct and consistent (when you look at how God's channel operated through biblical times) because God's channel should always be viewed as infallible, always inspired and should never be disagreed with because what God says is Truth and cannot be wrong.
So in contrast, the Governing Body are fallible, non-inspired, error prone men, who should be questioned when they are teaching something that is false.
He raises some good questions -When the GB teaches something that is false what are the biblical grounds for choosing to believe them anyway?
When the GB teaches something that is false, what are the biblical grounds for condemnation when the GB is rightly challenged for teaching something that is false?
If it is always wrong to question what was even recognized as God's Channel of communication then would it have been wrong for a 1st century Jew, before Jesus, to challenge the Pharisees (who were God's channel at that time)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4keJNyANqrUOne of his many points was that the Pharisees would have felt that they were Gods Chanel of communication and couldn't be question but Jesus entered the scene and questioned these leaders. So we have the situation where it was possible to challenge this Chanel.
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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"
by Sanchy invideo is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
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He has a go at apostates, accusing them of altering Watchtower publications and sites a 1910 magazine. He was at HQ and was able to look up an original copy. With the internet and their resources, have they even bothered to publish these on their website?
If he really believed this was a problem, he would get something done about it. As a poster earlier pointed out, he was simply trying to promote mistrust in outside sources.
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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"
by Sanchy invideo is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
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If we look at their unscriptural teachings today and know that they will df someone for believing otherwise we see how they do put their own teachings above the bible. We don't even need a 1910 quote to prove this.
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"Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.
by oppostate inor maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....
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Mad Irishman - he is one of those people who literally cannot talk about any other subject. I know born agains like this. I know JW's like this. He was in Vietnam. When he got out and became a Witness all those years ago he wouldn't shut up about it. It was in every one of his talks in the 70's.
If the only subject he could talk about was the Watchtower then how did he manage to talk so much about Vietnam? Regardless, he sounds like a person prone to being obsessed.