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  New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.

  it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.

  https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.

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  Shock, horror, the guy wanted to buy a two door car, it's a wonder they don't encourage JWs to buy mini vans.
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  Catholic church raised a cry of alarm, every year thousand of Catholics become J.W

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my brother (elder) e-mailed this to my sister(not a jw).

  the francisco pope praises j.w worldwide.

  oh shit, they will have a field day with this.

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  It's very old news and they did have a field day with it
  
  Awake 1987 3/22
  
  

  IN MANY lands people are doing just that. For example, at Bologna, Italy, church authorities, with the pope’s approval, held a congress to study how to combat the success of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Catholic Church raised a “cry of alarm,” according to La Repubblica, because every year ten thousand Catholics become Jehovah’s Witnesses.
  The Jesuit Giusseppe De Rosa said that “from a religious point of view the most dangerous are Jehovah’s Witnesses. They come fully trained; they always have the Bible in their hand.”
  In an editorial dealing specifically with Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Jesuit magazine La Civiltá Cattolica of February 18, 1984, wrote:
  “The first reason for the spread of the movement lies in the propaganda techniques [that is, in the preaching work]. The work on the one hand is painstaking, carried out from door to door by people who are scrupulously trained in this work and strongly convinced . . .
  “The second reason for the success of the JWs is in the attractive force of the jehovist message, in being able to cater to the needs, demands, and expectations of the people of our times. First of all, it fulfills the need for certainties, something very much appreciated at a time when all is uncertain and unsteady. . . . Above all, it is an absolutely certain revelation of the future, and therefore all who accept it are freed from all fear and anxiety and can face the future with joy, with the certainty of surviving the ruination of God’s tremendous judgment day for a wicked world and to live in eternal happiness on earth. Secondly, the jehovist message helps in overcoming the anxiety of the individual in the face of this world’s woes, announcing that the overturning of today’s unbearable situation is near, and that soon, therefore, there will be a new era, a new world will be born from which all the wicked who are now triumphant will be eliminated. . . .
  “The third reason for the success of JWs is that the movement gives its members a precise and strong identity, and it is a place for them where they are welcomed with warmth and a sense of brotherhood and solidarity.”
  The Vatican document analyzed people’s needs at the present time, and the foregoing quote from the Jesuit magazine La Civiltá Cattolica showed that it is the message of Jehovah’s Witnesses that is fulfilling those needs. This is further evidenced by the Catholic writer Vittorio Messori in his recent book Scommessa sulla morte (A Bet on Death), in which he writes:
  “It makes you think when you realize that one of these apocalyptical sects—Jehovah’s Witnesses—is the fastest growing confession, or religion, in the world. It is among the most practiced religions in many lands . . . and it is perhaps in first place when it comes to fervor, zeal, activism, ability to make proselytes.
  “Neither is their ever more accentuated presence limited to lands of Christian tradition, but it reaches the whole of the world where, in the name of Jehovah, and in a very short time, results are obtained that are often superior to those of Catholic, protestant, and orthodox missionaries in centuries of work.
  “This impressive force of expansion is incomprehensible only to the one who does not want to admit that . . . Jehovah’s Witnesses’ way of reading the Bible evidently meets real needs that other theologies no longer fill.
  “One cannot avoid the issue by insinuating that the Witnesses prosper because they play on fear. Just the opposite: Unlike the ‘official’ churches, they deny the existence of hell, preaching annihilation for the wicked and unbelievers, definitive disappearance after death. An unpleasant prospect, perhaps; but certainly less terrorizing than the threat of terrible pains for all eternity.”
  Yes, the God of Jehovah’s Witnesses is a loving God, not one that strikes people with terror.
  The following quotation is taken from the Catholic magazine Mondo erre of March 1986: “It ought to be said that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the first to live the faith they preach: They don’t get angry, they don’t smoke, they don’t accumulate riches, they keep out of political discussions, . . . they pay the taxes, they follow a virtuous and honest life-style, they are happy and obliging. All of this has made them well liked.”

  
  
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  This is the claim mad in the November 2016 Watchtower mag -

  "We live in exciting times. The earth-

  ly part of Jehovah’s organization is

  growing in many ways, but growth ne-

  cessitates change."

  Unfortunately for them the growth isn't in numbers.
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  Speculate now that 2 gb members are 80 will they be reasigned?

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  comments.

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  The November 2016 has an interesting article. The mag firstly talks about modesty (in behaviour). The last article states that the older men with positions should train the younger men then step aside to let the younger ones take over. It discusses a number of reasons why including the fact that younger ones are more energetic.

  It is clear from the article that further changes are in the pipeline and that includes more reassignments of positions to younger ones.

  It would also suggest you that it would be appropriate for older ones to step down and by doing so, they would be showing a number of Christian qualities, including modesty.

  It is ironic to see this article includes a photo of two guys in tight pants and coloured socks, I can't help but feel it is a direct message to Morris and the need for him to be modest by training younger ones and stepping down for them to take over.
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  Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

  spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

  again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

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  Great work So. It may have been good to mention the occasions when Elders and MSs are alone with minors. This includes witnessing work, bible studies and occasions when minors approach Elders. Also that by their positions alone, minors have absolute trust in them and are indoctrinated to obey them. It is also a practice of theirs to have minors approach an Elder to confess a sin.

  You could also have said that it has become evident that they do have child molesters already appointed as Elders and MSs.

  It's not too late to send another letter.
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  Some real gems from the KH!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, i went to the kh.... why?

  i had my reasons, but i had a real nice cocktail before hand.

  anyway, the talk was "why does god permit suffering?

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  Why do they even talk about marriage and sex in front of young children?
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  More Anti Tight Pants Content

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just skimming the latest study wt that has been posted and what did i see...?.

  i wonder what the message is that they want the flock to take from this picture?.

  there is also an article about training younger men to take over responsibilities.

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  What stands out as being the most offensive from this photo is the nationality of the guys in the photo. Why on earth would they differentiate different nationalities of the guys in the slimmer pants?

  My personal preference for dress is the guy second from the left but his hairstyle is pretty awful and shows a lack of interest in looking smart, there's nothing at all about it that emphasis being well groomed.

  Certainly the guy on the far left is dressed modestly but what a horror story. The colour of his suit is very outdated and imo, yucky. It is so baggy as to give an overall impression of being untidy, there are creases showing from top to bottom.
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  How to Irritate JWs: The Catholic Way

  by Hernandez in

  1. social
  2. humour

  what's the greatest advantage in becoming a roman catholic after leaving the jehovah's witnesses some 17 years ago?

  why, it's the way it totally irritates people and really pushes their buttons...that is, if you are one of the unfortunate jehovah's witnesses who happens across my door during field service.

  i have developed several techniques to make it very frustrating to the unwary witness who hopes to make headway at my house.

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  The opening post is funny and has the added benefit of working on both JWs and Catholics😉.
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  2016 annual meeting

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a few minutes till the start ..... we hope for a news from absalom and wifibandit very soon.. wifibandit, any tread on reddit for am?.

  also there were some info about live stream.

  any news about that..

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  The JWs would have a very hard time adapting due to coffee breaks being ruled out.
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  What is the Watchtower view on donating to charity?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've always had the impression that they frowned upon it, but never quite knew for sure.....

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  Many charities provide their financials so that individuals can make informed decisions on whether to donate but the organisation provides nothing.