This says a lot as to what he thinks headship or leadership is really about. It's about 'competition'. The Elder or Governing Body member is equiped mentally, physically, emotionaly and someatically to pit his mind against his fellowman and to be in competition with him,
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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.
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Disfellowed on 7/16/14 for sending a letter to my former congregation
by spbondgirl007 init's been quite a while since i lasted posted anything on jwn.
i was in hiding previously, but only because i wanted to avoid the shun gun until i had the opportunity to tell my former congregation what i think about the org./gb.
i last attended a meeting over 2.5 years ago but it wasn't until june--when i earned my bachelor's degree--that i finally had the time to collect my thoughts and get them down on paper...i decided to write my letter in a style i felt would be most appealing to my target audience--jw's still under gb mind control --in the hope that at least a few would read it and actually "think".
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Congratulations SpBondGirl007 for earning your Bachelor Degree. Thank you for sharing your letter with us. You are a very good writer and engaging.
Have you had any positive responses from those you sent the letter to?
These types of letters must play on the minds of Elder's, particularly the ones that have to make the decision to disfellowship a person. This may not be an immediate reaction but it is probably something that they benefit from over time. There is no harm in examining things and you have clearly emphasized that this is, in fact, a biblical requirement. If only these Elders stop every now and then and think about what they are being taught and whether it is based solidly on the bible then you have done your job.
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Trademark office rejects Watchtower's application for "JW.Org" logo
by AndDontCallMeShirley inhttp://tsdr.uspto.gov/#casenumber=85896124&casetype=serial_no&searchtype=statussearch.
even though watchtower's application has been rejected, they will be allowed to use the logo because it is for religious usage and will not be confused with commercial products.. the trademark office did note this:.
indeed, numerous other marks are registered reflecting the letters j and w:.
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From this information it would seem possible for someone else to change the logo slightly and establish a use for it commercially for it to be approved.
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JWs getting "Footloose" at the Kingdom Hall
by AndDontCallMeShirley ini hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
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They are just so desperate they have turned their Kingdom Halls into party venues.
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"You are good people"
by ateograciasadios inthis story goes back 2 years, when my girlfriend and i traveled to my homecountry in south america to spend the summer visiting my family and friends.
although i was still attending the meetings back then, i had already been inactive for a while.
the developments since that visit have been slow but dramatic, and my perception of the people inside the organization has changed greatly.
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Perfect Relationship, He Still Broke Up With Me
by tiff21390 inlast month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.
he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.
i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.
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Welcome 21390 and sorry to hear your story.
You can't have had a perfect relationship if he was living a lie.
It's possible that the person you know now is the person he always was. I doubt whether your partner has changed at all, it's just that you didn't see it.
Now that he wants to do the 'moral' thing has he already spoken to the elders and confessed? This should also help you to see what sort of person he is. If he believes it is the religion for him and wants to do the right thing then he will have confessed. This may mean he will be disfellowshipped and shunned by his family and friends for up to a year, it will be a horrendous time for him.
I think you are doing the best thing at the moment and that is to cut off all contact with him. This will give him time to decide how much you mean to him and how difficult it is to be without both a friend and a lover.
There is nothing at all that stops him from marrying you other than himself and his wishes. Although the JWs discourage this and talk about being 'unevenly yoked' if he were to marry you then there is nothing they would do about it. This makes me think that there are more issues here than he wishes to discuss and my first instinct is to say just give him up. However, time will tell.
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JWs everywhere!
by NVR2L8 ini'm traveling through the us on my motorcycle and yesterday i tried to get a hotel room in indianapolis.
the first 3 hotels were sold out and when i finally found a room i realized that everyone in the hotel were hispanic and wearing lapel id cards for the convention.
the other rider accompanying me is the only active jw i'm friends with so i had to be careful how i handled myself with the brothers...of course he engaged some of them but i managed to keep my conversation to a simple introduction.
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Mum, without question it is up to you how you chose to deal with JW's and I do understand what you are saying.
A lot of JWs would react badly if they knew they had been talking sweetly to an Apostate and yet because they have spoken to you and not known you were an apostate nothing has happened to them and they have not had any bad feelings to deal with. It shows what a nonsense the shunning policy is.
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JWs everywhere!
by NVR2L8 ini'm traveling through the us on my motorcycle and yesterday i tried to get a hotel room in indianapolis.
the first 3 hotels were sold out and when i finally found a room i realized that everyone in the hotel were hispanic and wearing lapel id cards for the convention.
the other rider accompanying me is the only active jw i'm friends with so i had to be careful how i handled myself with the brothers...of course he engaged some of them but i managed to keep my conversation to a simple introduction.
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Mum, if a JW does not know you are an apostate or you don't discuss anything with them then you are playing into their hands and they are getting one over you. That's exactly what they want, that's why they have a shunning policy so that they can't listen to you.
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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)
by opusdei1972 inthis a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .
the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?
", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .
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In true JW Christian fashion she threatens the Judge
If the court insists on inflicting punishment upon me because I am obeying God's law, then the Court must take the consequences before Jehovah God"
They were such great judgemental witnesses even back then.
There is another newspaper article about this Maria J Braught but I can't open it as I am not a subscriber. She was fined another $318 for further offences. That was a lot of money in those days.
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Jah's Org is our MOTHER and they are also Jesus' Bride and also Jesus' father's wife?
by Terry in__i'm confused .
israel: the wife of jehovah ( ezekiel 16:8 ).. israel committed adultry.
( hosea 2:2-5 ).. jehovah and israel "separated" for about 100 years.
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Just to add to the confusion, there is the birth of a child. This is what the WTBTS has to say about it in their Revelation book
Subject: The heavenly woman gives birth, Michael battles with Satan and casts him to earth
Time of fulfillment: From the enthronement of Christ Jesus in 1914 up to the great tribulation
2 John now sees a great sign—one of outstanding interest for God’s people. It introduces a thrilling prophetic vision, the meaning of which was first published in the March 1, 1925, issue of The Watch Tower in an article entitled “Birth of the Nation” and then again in 1926 in the book Deliverance. This brilliant flash of Bible understanding became a historic marker in the advancement of Jehovah’s work. So let John describe the drama as it starts to unfold: “And a great sign was seen in heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of twelve stars, and she was pregnant. And she cries out in her pains and in her agony to give birth.”—Revelation 12:1, 2.
3 For the first time, John beholds a woman in heaven. She is, of course, not a literal woman. Rather, she is a sign, or a symbol. (Revelation 1:1) What does she symbolize? In the inspired prophecies, women at times represent organizations “married” to outstanding personalities. In the Hebrew Scriptures, Israel was spoken of as a wife of Jehovah God. (Jeremiah 3:14) In the Greek Scriptures, the congregation of anointed Christians is spoken of as Christ’s bride. (Revelation 21:9-14) The woman John here sees is also married to someone, and she is about to give birth. Who is her husband? Well, later her child is “caught away to God and to his throne.” (Revelation 12:5) Jehovah thus claims the child as his own. Therefore, the woman that John sees must be Jehovah’s symbolic wife.
4 About eight centuries earlier, Jehovah had addressed this symbolic wife, saying: “All your sons will be persons taught by Jehovah.” (Isaiah 54:5, 13) Jesus quoted this prophecy and showed that these sons were his faithful followers, who later formed the congregation of anointed Christians. (John 6:44, 45) So members of this congregation, spoken of as God’s sons, are also children of God’s symbolic wife. (Romans 8:14) The apostle Paul adds the final piece of information when he says: “The Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother.” (Galatians 4:26) The “woman” seen by John, then, is “the Jerusalem above.”
5 Exactly what, though, is Jerusalem above? Since Paul spoke of her as “above,” and John sees her in heaven, she is clearly not an earthly city; neither is she the same as “New Jerusalem,” since that organization is the bride of Christ, not Jehovah’s wife. (Revelation 21:2) Notice that she is crowned with 12 stars. The number 12 is associated with completeness in an organizational setting. Hence, these 12 stars seem to indicate that she is an organizational arrangement in heaven, just as ancient Jerusalem was on earth. Jerusalem above is Jehovah’s universal organization of spirit creatures that acts as his wife, both in serving him and in producing offspring.....
A Son, a Male
.... Rather, it is the birth of God’s Kingdom in 1914 as a reality, with Jesus—now in heaven for close to 20 centuries—enthroned as King.—Revelation 12:10.
God's Wife - the Jerusalem above/spirit creatures
God's Son - the newborn Messianic Kingdom with Jesus as King and the 144,000 ruling as King's and Priest's
Because Jesus' bride is the 144,000 then Jesus is marrying his brother.