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  My mother says I should just DA already.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. experiences

  cut the cord.

  sever all ties.

  start new.. and she's right.

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  Julia, sorry to hear that you are finding things difficult.  Going to a counsellor could help but I don't think that it needs to be one dealing with cults. 

  You have told us previously that you joined the religion when you were younger and your parents were not JWs. This is not all that common and you should look at the reasons why you joined back then.  Have you considered whether you were vulnerable back then or what it was that attracted you in the first place?  Maybe your time in the cult helped to mask over any problems.

  You've got a wonderful husband who sounds very supportive.  Don't put unwarranted pressures or expectations on yourself until you are better and able to function better.

  You write so well and are able to express yourself clearly and that is very positive.

  If you feel you need to DA then they must still have some power over you, they don't deserve it. 

   

   

   
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  That's just weird, copying an Apostate video, even the introduction is on the same coloured yellow background.  The Apostates must really be getting to them.
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  What will the JW religion be like in 2015?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.

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  what do you envision?.

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  Some very good predictions were made.

  Sir82 was pretty good too with his comments on rebranding -

  "Never underestimate the capacity of a religious group to re-brand itself and begin a fresh round of marketing. People's memories are notoriously short, and oftentimes people also have a shockingly poor grasp of the historical picture at the best of times (who among the current rank and file went through the disappointment of 1914 - or even 1925 for that matter? All dead and gone - or pretty close to it!). We sometimes erroneously conclude that because we have been through a major disappointment that others will also have a similar memory years later. sadly, not true: people re-write or re-construct memories all the time - especially when religiousd beliefs are involved."

   
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  The current JWs do not cease to amaze.  Here's their latest video on YouTube and straight from Bethel.

  There is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWOU6e5VwBo 
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  Special Report: Joel goes undercover at a KH

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you that are into activism you may enjoy this special report video.

  here's the description from the jwstruggle youtube channel:.

  my buddy joel the unwitness recently went undercover at a kingdom hall, armed with a notebook, regular clothes, and an american standard bible.

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  This guy is very thoughtful and comes up with some unique ways to expose JWs to TTATT. I would have loved to have seen a video of the event.
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  Explaining away the increase in anointed

  by lurkernomore in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was just informed by my wife that her grandmother (who's also out) has been told by a 'sister' from her old hall that during their most recent circuit visit the co said something along the lines of:.

  isn't it faith strengthening that the number of anointed is falling in relation to the increase in publishers?

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  It's got JWs talking which is a good thing.
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  Ted Jaracz and/or others?

  by feenx in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy new year to all :)

  so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).

  i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).

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  Not that I can see.
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  Ted Jaracz and/or others?

  by feenx in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy new year to all :)

  so i'm curious if anyone has further info/dirt on jaracz or any other gb members (former or current).

  i know jaracz was publicly accused of molesting a young girl (now an adult).

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  I don't understand why Worf and Lee Ravyn would not have named the young man who committed suicide.
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  what type of faith do you REALLY want?

  by atheist_R_stupid in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.

  it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?

  " and the man says "whats an rdo?".

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  I just watched a Youtube where a non JW approached a young lady next to a WTBTS literature cart.  He asked her what was she doing, she replied "I am placing literature with genuinely interested bible students".  This is the type of language we had to conform to rather than sincerely trying to reach people.
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  This talk is so Americanised with little regard to situations in other countries.  Here in Australia most students do not need to move from their home and live on site, they can even do most, if not all, of their course online.

  Strange how University aged students are now children, not even teenagers.  It is hard to comprehend why the organization allows even teenagers to be baptized when it is still the parents responsibility for their spiritual care. 

   Morris says 'we don't need Dr's and Lawyers in the new system but we will need carpenters and plumbers and similar construction trades' then immediately goes on to say 'it requires faith and confidence that our [current]  material needs will be cared for by training in other fields'.

  So on one hand we can't have faith and confidence in God in the new system to provide, even though there will supposedly be resurrected ones with those skills as well as mankind will be perfect. Where in the bible does it mention that we need to be trained in skills that may be useful in the New World?  Isn't Morris once again going beyond what the bible states and decides for himself what the will of God will be and orders his sheep to consider these things?

  Brumley says all credit goes to God in their victories, it is not them and their own work, they see God's hand.  If this is the case then they didn't need to become trained lawyers. They only proved that they are relying on earthly arrangements.