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  Article on the JWs in The Guardian

  by scotsman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

  poor jane schofield, she was rather fabulous..

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  What stands out in this article is all the names, something you rarely see in the watchtower.
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  All quiet on the western front

  by campaign of hate in

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  2. beliefs

  recently it seems very quiet in jw land.. jw broadcasting has been in full swing for months now, nobody bats an eye lid at that anymore.. so the question is, what is next?

  the next organisation change, the next doctrine change.

  it seems like this is the quiet before the storm.. the way things are going, it's almost like they try and one up their last change, things in jw land get that bit more crazy every year.. i'm hedging my bets toward a monthly public talk broadcast straight from new york.

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  They also listed all the GB helpers in a recent watchtower, no doubt they will also be presenting these video talks also.
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  Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

  jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

  he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

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  Could you ask her to shrink Tony's pants?
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  Let me get this straight

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at the regional they said they need brothers like crazy, but sisters are giveing out the literature and sisters are handling contranution boxes but yet they say brothers are lazy shiftless following at distance can someone explain this.

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  They mean that the brothers need to be more like Jesus and follow him closely.
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  Beware the will use legal means against lies

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by anthony morris iii from jw broadcasting july 2015. i've posted much much more than necessary but i wanted to keep it in context.

  the governing body has approved of my speaking of something that jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions.

  and i might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone.

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  Yes oubliette, I knew what I was writing but I will not admit that I was implying anything. ;)
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  Beware the will use legal means against lies

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by anthony morris iii from jw broadcasting july 2015. i've posted much much more than necessary but i wanted to keep it in context.

  the governing body has approved of my speaking of something that jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions.

  and i might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone.

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  While we may take advantage of legal means to set the record straight in harmony with Jesus words we do not engage in smear campaigns with rebuttals either verbally or in print.

  AMIII comes across as very sober and sad in this speech, not his normal self. At the outset he makes it clear that his talk has been approved by the Governing Body. This is strange point to make as that should be a given. It would seem that AMIII may have been letting the personal comments made about him get to him and feels the need to personally discuss the issue in his broadcasting issue. It would seem that the individual members have been given special leeway in addressing their own topics in their allotted broadcast.

  There have been comments made on here questioning whether AMIII is drunk when giving his speeches, I don't know if anyone has outright accused him of being drunk but I thought it might be good to remind everyone that we must be careful about what we accuse these individual GB members of.

  This has been mentioned before but considering the above comment from AMIII it is clear that he is happy to use legal means as it is an avenue available to him. It might not be with the org's money because I doubt they would want to take anyone to court in these instances, it has the potential of exposing them to too much. But AMIII probably has plenty of his own money, he has mentioned that his elderly parents are rich and we have seen how he has his own agenda at times.

  But it must all be getting to him.
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  Beware the will use legal means against lies

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by anthony morris iii from jw broadcasting july 2015. i've posted much much more than necessary but i wanted to keep it in context.

  the governing body has approved of my speaking of something that jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions.

  and i might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone.

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  I am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by Anthony Morris III from JW Broadcasting July 2015. I've posted much much more than necessary but I wanted to keep it in context. Here it is -

  “The Governing Body has approved of my speaking of something that Jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions. And I might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone. It is a realistic discussion that we all need to be prepared for. The topic is persecution. It can come in many forms, some are very subtle....

  The Apostle Paul in the first century CE describes certain men who oppose the early Christian congregation. He reminded loyal followers of Jesus about the persecutions and sufferings that he experienced in multiple cities. His followup words in 2 Timothy 3:12 are the theme for this material. Here Paul shows that the persecution would not be the experience of just a select few....What are some forms of persecution we might expect? As we mentioned it could be subtle forms such as negative talk about our beliefs or sarcastic comments by school mates or workmates. However Jesus himself itemized more outright forms of persecution...However, what is another form of persecution that Jesus specifically mentioned? At Mathew 5:11 he said that people will persecute you and people will lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Lies are particularly hurtful because they misrepresent the true nature of a person or organization. They’re often started with malicious intent, then they might be picked up by the news medium and published as if factual when in reaslity many of the facts never come to light. Jesus indicated that no matter what his followers did they would be criticized and misrepresented by people who speak untruths. As an example, at Matthew 11:18 he said of John the Baptist, he came neither eating nor drinking but people say he has a demon, then in the next verse Matt 11:19 Jesus commented on his very different own approach of the basics of life Jesus did not follow the strict dietarian restrictions of John . Jesus was also known to drink wine in moderation. The opposite approach of John who was criticized for his beahviou, what lying accusations did Jesus have to face? Matthew 11:19 says “The son of man did come eating and drinking but people say look, a man who is a glutton and given to eating and drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners” As in the first century we are criticized by some no matter what we do. But notice the significant comment of Jesus at the end of that verse, he said “All the same, wisdom is proved righteous by it’s works” In other words, people can usually see right through the exaggerated stories and outright lies. They know our good works and motives and our true reputation remains in tact. (Pause)

  While we may take advantage of legal means to set the record straight in harmony with Jesus words we do not engage in smear campaigns with rebuttals either verbally or in print.

  Instead we continue to go about our peaceful work for the good of humanity. This includes sharing the bibles message with all people helping them to better their lives spiritually and morally. We translate that message in some 700 languages, some of which we’ve never even heard of befoe. We go to great lengths to help the blind and the death with publications they can comprehend . Even though these are produced at significant cost. In fact, we produce some videos in 80 different sign languages. Jesus is right, wisdom is proved righteous by its works. But what about some of these erroneous ideas that are ceased upon and publicized by the media. Some municipalities misinterpret our intent and spread lies about the public nature of our ministry Commendably however in many lands the law supports our freedom of speech and worship and our persistence has actually set a precedent for others to enjoy similar freedom. At times lies are spread about our views of medical intervention when sick. For example reports are spread that say we would rather let our children die rather than seek medical help for them.
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  July Broadcast Denies That JW Children Die Rather Than Have Medical Care

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  anthony morris 3rd delivered the broadcast this month and advised that lies are circulated that they let children die rather than have medical care .

  he says this is so inaccurate as to be a boldfaced lie ...... further he says it is "up to the parents to determine what would be the best treatment for their children" .

  now, does this mean that parents are really free to make a decision to accept blood for their minor child, if they so choose?

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  Without doubt we see a new breed of GB members these days. In the past they were very proud of their no blood policy.
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  GB Spirit directed writing - October 2015 Awake

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the awake oct 2015 is now up on jw org.. one article talks about young adults returning to their parents home and tries to give them some advice.. one of the highlighted comments are these magical words.

  <<remember, more important than what you do is becoming proficient at what you do.>>.

  i don't see how it's more important to become more proficient in that window washing job than working towards a more interesting and better paying job.

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  The Awake Oct 2015 is now up on JW org.

  One article talks about young adults returning to their parents home and tries to give them some advice.

  One of the highlighted comments are these magical words

  <<Remember, more important than what you do is becoming proficient at what you do.>>

  I don't see how it's more important to become more proficient in that window washing job than working towards a more interesting and better paying job. We have always told our children to work towards the job that they really want and taking up less desirable jobs in the meantime is a means to an end.

  How about the GB tell their helpers to swap jobs with the cleaning staff, after all, its not what they are doing that is more important but becoming proficient in it is.

  Another comment

  <<In fact, it has been observed that the more experience and skill workers acquire, the more they enjoy their work. (then they jump to this conclusion) You don’t have to do what you love in order to love what you do!>>

  Huh? If you love what you are doing then you are doing what you love.
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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  Watchtower 56 10/1

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  That such devotion to the flag should be customary is not at all surprising in view of the fact that “early flags were almost purely of religious character,” according to The Encyclopædia Britannica. That authority and others show the development of flags. In the hope of assuring victory pagan soldiers at first carried their idols and carved images with them into battle. Then they made miniatures of their carved idols, which they placed on the end of staffs. Later they painted representations of their idols on cloth and fastened these to the staffs. Thus is seen the evolution from carved idols to modern flags.>>