hey are very valid points that you raise (ha ha) Smiddy. The Watchtower is wrong about their teachings on masturbation and it's a powerful tool that they use for control. They know it too, otherwise they would make it a df offence.
You don't say how old this bloke was but most people wouldn't even be looking 'down there'. You sure told him where to go though and language like that from an 11/12 year old back then wouldn't have been expected. Sometimes bad language can be very useful in situations. And people wonder why there were 'gay bashers' around in those days.
The Watchtower is also wrong when they try to blame a child for being caught up in sexual encounters. It's very difficult for a child to properly comprehend what is going on and how to deal with threatening or seducing behavior.
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Boys pre-teen sexuality / erections.? Why ? If only for procreation ?
by smiddy3 inthis has been a bug bear my whole life i think and not really sure how to address it as nobody else ever seems to do so.. and it relates to the question if god really created humans .
he did a shithouse job in this regard.. i can`t speak for females this is entirely a male thing.
from my perspective.. male adolescents at a very ,very young age , babies , get erections periodically and it has nothing to do with sexual fantasies ,because they don`t even have an awareness of sex between a male and a female at this time.. and it is second inbuilt nature to masturbate to relieve, get rid of the erection .
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January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!
by The Fall Guy inif the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.
in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!
(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.
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btlc - Same work as Jesus outlined, by omiting and denying his words how to baptize disciples? Sure.
From the Watchtower Jan 2020Nearly 300,000 people each year get baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses and become disciples of Jesus Christ!
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Very weird "orb" experience last night....and i don't believe in paranormal
by Bad_Wolf inso i got this night vision/security camera.
wyze is the brand.
this only happened once last night.
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Thanks, I've watched Youtubes where people are filming in very dusty places and it's amazing to see all the dust orbs flying about.
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Very weird "orb" experience last night....and i don't believe in paranormal
by Bad_Wolf inso i got this night vision/security camera.
wyze is the brand.
this only happened once last night.
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Can you post a still on here?
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January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed
by Listener init's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.
another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.
anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.
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Waton - When I looked last (many years ago) the heavenly resurrection started in 1918, after the heavens were clean enough, after Satan gone. close to the appointment of wt inc as the F&DS.
That was their old teachings as found in the following -Revelation - It's grand climax at hand
"All the evidence indicates that this heavenly resurrection began in 1918, after Jesus' enthronement in 1914 and his riding forth to start his kingly conquest by cleansing the heavens of Satan and his demons." Revelation, Its Grand Climax At Hand! p. 103From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained
One of the many enlightening truths that God now gave his witnesses was about the members of God's spiritual nation who had died physically. This was in 1927. In that year the witnesses understood that the dead spiritual Israelites had been raised in 1918 to life in heaven with Christ Jesus. It was an invisible resurrection, of course.
The latest teaching finds them being unsure about date and they don't commit to any date -Watchtower 07 1/1
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January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed
by Listener init's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.
another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.
anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.
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Thanks Atlantis
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January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed
by Listener init's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.
another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.
anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.
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It's very odd that the Jan. 2020 Watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.
Another odd thing about this Watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.
The fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.
Here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -
2016 Watchtower statesAnointed Christians need to be taught by Jehovah just like everyone else.
2020 Watchtower statesOf course, anointed Christians need to be taught by Jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.
Four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only Jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest Watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.
Watchtower 2016 statesThere will be 144,000 ruling with Jesus in heaven. But the Bible speaks of “the remaining ones” of the anointed who are still on earth in this time of the end. (Revelation 12:17) So most of the 144,000 have already died and are in heaven.
They've left this out in the 2020 Watchtower which is interesting because they don't know exactly when the 144,000 began to be resurrected.
Watchtower 2016 statesIf we do not treat anointed ones as more important than others, we also protect ourselves. How? The Bible tells us that there might be “false brothers” in the congregation who may even say that they are anointed. (Galatians 2:4, 5; 1 John 2:19) Also, some anointed ones might not stay faithful.
Watchtower 2020 statesIf we do not treat anointed ones as more important than others, we also protect ourselves. How? The Bible tells us that some anointed ones might not remain faithful.
The thought that there may be anointed "false brothers" in the congregation has been removed. No doubt the GB has decided that putting ideas like that in the minds of followers is not such a good idea.
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It's funny how you put it like that Zeb. It does hurt the pay packet and it's a good reminder to start budgeting.
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Sisters
by truthlover123 induring the first talk tonight, the brother giving the talk indicated that now comments were to include sisters!
previously mostly only brothers were mentioned in most prayers or comments - has anyone else heard this tonight?.
the meeting seemed to be positioned directly to and about sisters.
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If it's a new policy, it's not reflected in the latest Watchtower.
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Normal Family Relations Continue...My Arse....
by HiddenPimo ini think that the big issue here is the double standard based on the location of the family members - if they are 'immediate' meaning they live at home in the same dwelling under the same roof then it's ok but if you are like me and living on your own, your family will absolutely avoid contact with you as that is the real jw policy..the old canada court trial and recent swedish news are totally out of context and the jw attorneys are complete tools and filthy liars....
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They constantly lie about it when it suits them.
Even if you are living at home, it can be a problem. It's horrible to be shunned in your own home.
It shows their doctrine to be complete nonsense when they one treatment for a child or marriage partner living at home and another when a family member is not living at home. If the child is old enough to live away from home, the expectation is that they leave.
They break families up.