Posts by Listener

the new watchtower study edition is out and i have a bone to pick with the watchtower with paragraph 14 from study article 14. there we read: "we want to help clear jehovah’s name of all reproach.

consider this scenario: you have a close friend who is kind, generous, and forgiving.

We want to help clear Jehovahs name of ALL reproach…Similarly, when Satan and those under his influence try to ruin Jehovah’s reputation by spreading lies about Him, we respond by telling the truth about Jehovah, vigorously defending His name. (Ps. 34:1; Isa. 43:10)
What a downright, lie. The general reaction is to avoid or remain silent in defending accusations. Jackson’s lawyers were told lies to help prevent him from having to attend the Australian Commission where he had been given the opportunity to defend the organisation.
When it comes to being sued, they choose to negotiate settlement instead of having their day in court and gag those abused. They will not defend themselves.
I just love the writing Department for writing comments like the one above. The contradictions are often to be seen.
Is the Watchtower condemning themself by the placards the opposers are holding in the above illustration.
The organisation is clearly identified by the ‘signs and symbols’ being held. 1. The Watchtower symbol2. The JW org. logo3. Representation of the opposite to the picture they have shown on their ‘no blood’ card for years
It’s strange that the JW signs are shown in green and missing the .org. but the message is still portrayed. It’s also deliberate. They just couldn’t bring themselves to show a slash through their name.

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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

by Listener in

a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

Listener

Good observation on the 'We just don't know' by G Jackson, he repeated it numerous times.

The crazy thing is that at one time, they professed to know those answers. The light has just gone completely black all of a sudden and he admits it.

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January 2025 Letter to the Elders

by blondie in

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i used to send my comments on these letters to atlantis, so i will share them here if that is okay, if not, i'll still do it.

:) 1) medical matters: (technology has arrived) listing of hlc members is not online and updated regularly, but only elders have access, not for general circulation.

(and in case the reader of the letter needs clarification) copies should not be made for publishers or on the information board (!).

Listener

Deer Yang Wans

Thanks Blondie

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Leah Remini's Next A&E Project to Tackle Jehovah's Witness

by blondie in

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leah remini's did a show several years ago, it was very good.

she is working on a new one.. https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/leah-reminis-next-aande-project-to-tackle-jehovahs-witness/ar-aaxeni9?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1 .

Listener

Leah Remini did a wonderful job.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

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this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

Listener

AFAIK they are also taking a new stand on children's education. In the same article they write -

"As they grow, help them to do their best at school. Christian parents do well to research and apply Bible principles to help their children decide how to use education wisely."

They want parents to now actively assist in ensuring the kids are doing their best at school.

For many, this will be a new and added pressure as a JW. More time will need to be spent on home studies and with parents becoming involved with this.

My father, who was a very strict JW Elder, encouraged us to always do our best at school but didn't pressure us and he didn't spend any time helping us with home work or studying. If we had a problem, he would encourage us to talk to our teachers.

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follower of Eric Wilson, abusive to single women covered by paying sums of money to support Beroean Pickets tourism trips.

by buzkid in

susanne eigenheer is an ex-jw and suffered religious abuse in eric wilson's group.

her personal statement and experiences within the beroean pickets study groups was one of betrayal where she was taken advantage of financially.

in one text conversation, wendy wiens disfellowshiped susanne and demanded an apology from her.

Listener

Just 3 weeks ago he had dedicated a whole video, asking for money and translation help titled ‘We have some great news and we need your help!’

He needs $30,000 so that he can have a weekly video published into different languages where AI is used to show him and his voice speaking many different languages of his blog.

But there’s no need to be concerned, he’s not interested in building halls like the Watchtower which he says one report claims they spent half a billion doing so last year.

Listening to the OP video, it seems that it is Eric’s wife, Wendy, that is the centre of some problems. He may have to be like Pastor Russel and banish her. She must be giving him many sleepless nights. 😉

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BEROEAN PICKETS:- VIcky And Mike's Story. "Judged To Be Like The Antichrist "

by buzkid in

vicky and mike hobbs are ex jehovah’s witnesses and ex beroean pickets members their personal statements and experiences within the beroean pickets bible study groups wasn't pleasant.

and vicky was likened to the antichrist because of her differing views.

spiritual abuse is becoming more widespread and the purpose of this interview is to raise awareness, provide education around spiritual and religious abuse, and to keep the public safe.

Listener

I don't have anything to do with his meetings that he arranges but I was subscribed to his Youtube Chanel until a few weeks ago.

I unsubscribed due to coming to the realization that he was a leader and dictating his teachings upon others, being those in his meeting groups.

His Youtube titled "What is Really Wrong with Praying to Jesus" told me a lot about him.

In this Youtube, Eric talks about the need to resolve an issue in 'our' foreign language online Bible study groups but then reverts to stating that HE has the need to resolve the issue, taking on a dictatorial, leadership role.

He then goes on to lecture them, in what I consider, a very condescending way that doesn't even make sense. He tells those giving prayers to Jesus at the meetings that they have been upsetting others, causing hurt feelings and sleepless nights. He then admonishes them for being divisive, yet tells them that they were free to pray to Jesus in private. And if they had only done so they would causing no divisions and no issues.

He then tells them that by praying to Jesus they are proving that they believe in the Trinity.

Yet why does he have anything to do with these people if they believe in the trinity and pray to Jesus when he is completely against either?

The bottom line is, that he has no problem with trinitarians and non trinitarians worshipping together at his meetings as long as the trinitarians practice their worship of prayer to Jesus in private.

He further adds "Now, it can be very daunting to deal with brothers and sisters you’ve trusted and come to love, when they turn on you with false teachings. But this is nothing new. " He didn't express his disappointment in them turning on Jesus or God, rather he says they were turning on him.

I'm surprised he brought this issue out on his Youtubes but I guess it was just the next progressive step for him.

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Shunning--newest directive

by stan livedeath in

so just what is the latest directive on shunning?.

asking for a family member.

Listener

Good pick up St George.

A good demonstration of their pure hypocrisy.

Even the wording of the original statement is telling -

“ Opposers attack our Bible based beliefs on morality, and on the disfellowshipping arrangement”

They are stating that their moral beliefs are bible based but that clarification is deliberately not made in regards to their disfellowshipping arrangement.

According to Scribbr regarding the use of a comma before an ‘and’, it states ‘You need a comma before “and” when it connects two independent clauses’.

Another point is that their disfellowshipping arrangement is full of moral issues.