Posts by DanaBug

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Where do the JW's pull their statistics from?

by stillstuckcruz in

i noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use.

but their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date i imagine.. example: i remember the talk about parents or young people or something.

many of you may remember the statistic it provides.

DanaBug

It's really easy to twist statistics too. The media does it a lot. There's often some little bit left out that completely changes what it means.

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Any Mexicans on this board?

by Bucholz in

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friends

hello guys, i've been a lurker for quite some time and am a little curious to know if there are any people from mexico regurarly posting on this board..

I'm not Mexican, just American and Southern at that, lol! I served with my family in a spanish group for several years and we went to an international convention in Puebla in 03, I think that was the year. Anyway, that trip was so much fun and we experienced some awesome hospitality. Some local Witnesses invited us to a party with a live mariachi band and tons of tamales. I miss homemade tamales. I absolutely loved Mexico. I still have all the blouses and skirts I bought there and the little trinkets the friends gave out at the convention. My spanish is really rusty though, I haven't used it in a long time. My family that's still in is fluent. Well, as far as Testigo Espanol (or is it espanol de testigos?) goes. I really should pick that up again.

Totally off topic, but it floored me when we stopped by an internet cafe in Merida and the keyboard was so different. It was so hard to type in English on it, lol! Little things you don't notice in your native country.

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A non-JW gets it!

by MrFreeze in

in my attempt to seperate myself from the jw's completely, i am finding all kind of awesome people.

of course, if we are talking by jw's standards these people are "awful".

anywho, there are a couple of them who are absolutely fascinated with the fact that i used to be a jw.. the reason they are fascinated is because they are aware of cultish mind-control and understand just how difficult it is to walk away from it all.

DanaBug

I have friends that when they find out are just shocked, about the shunning and rules. They cannot fathom how anyone could do that to their own family. I have one other friend that I've shared all this stuff with as I've discovered it, she's known me for years and she's got a pretty strong Christian background but is totally non-denominational in her outlook ( she's suggested I join the UUs or take up buddhism). So when I tell her things that they believe, I get to hear how it doesn't fit from a Christian perspective.

But no, I don't personally know anyone who really gets it. I almost think you have to be a former cult member to really get it. How do they get it, mrfreeze? Have they studied the psychology of it or have family members that were involved? I would love to meet people who get it.

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Where do the JW's pull their statistics from?

by stillstuckcruz in

i noticed how, of course, the public talk outlines contain the same information for all the brothers to use.

but their statistics on matter aren't very up-to-date i imagine.. example: i remember the talk about parents or young people or something.

many of you may remember the statistic it provides.

DanaBug

What Witness would check if the statistics are accurate? God's channel and all Never doubt it! Even if it sounds incredible.

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In general, what is the ethically correct response if a minor tells you someone is molesting him/her?

by InterestedOne in

i was thinking about what the elders are trained to do versus what i personally would do if a minor confided in me that someone was molesting him/her.

i'm not sure what the ethically correct first response should be.

my first thought is to contact some kind of law enforcement that specializes in investigating situations like this with people experienced in getting to the truth of the matter.

DanaBug

They call headquarters for instructions. That's in the Shephard the Flock book. I assume headquarters would tell them what they're legally required to do and that depends on the state. The state I live in does not require clergy to report. Some parents do skip talking to the elders and go straight to the authorities, but I think it depends on if the molester is a Witness or not.

Personally, I would call CPS first, DFCS here.

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Happifying? Real WT quote, or are we joking -

by james_woods in

maybe i just missed it, (the story of the word) - but i am seeing this word "happifying" in a lot of threads.. can it possibly be that the wt actually printed this??

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DanaBug

Lol! Apparently not. I admit, I did not keep up with my magazine reading. Shame on me. I still can't believe I never caught that, and I'm a total grammar nazi! I would love to know who came up with that and how they translated that word in other languages.

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Happifying? Real WT quote, or are we joking -

by james_woods in

maybe i just missed it, (the story of the word) - but i am seeing this word "happifying" in a lot of threads.. can it possibly be that the wt actually printed this??

?.

DanaBug

Seriously? They actually printed that! I thought somebody on here made it up. I was in then too, how did I miss that?

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Did You Tend To Question The Organization Or Did You Just WANT To Believe?

by minimus in

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friends

i know some who always questioned the elders, the society, and others because they were typically skeptical.. there are those who just seemed to want to believe whatever they were told.. i was more a skeptic, during my last decade.. .

DanaBug

Children accept the reality they are presented with. They usually don't question it, until their experiences don't fit with what they were taught. There were things that I noticed: God killing everyone who's not a JW, evolution could have been how God created, horrible people being appointed by holy spirit, how draining everything was, why I was so weak I kept messing up. I ignored those things, it was the truth, imperfect men, Satan's system of things, etc. It's amazing what you notice once you're eyes are actually open, all the things you never paid attention to before. Adds up pretty quick.

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there are 2 classes of ex Jehovahs witnesses

by the max in

hi im part of a group of ex jh,s, we meet for drinks and dinner, go to football games.many of the guys do drugs,(i dont, i like sport) , most live very hedonistic lifestyles, lets leave it at that,(im happily married).

my point is, when i left, i was honest, and got df,d.

now im experiencing the same kind of shit that i experieced in the hall, the ex jw,s are just as judgemental, and stupid as when they were at the kingdom hall, for eg you were df,d we were not,it doesnt matter to them, that their doing coke and getting into group sex.

DanaBug

Wow, wontleave! Judgemental much? I was homeschooled and thrown out for letting my "trashy personality...get the best" of me. Guess we can add a third class of ex-JWs, smart moral apostates that look down on the stupid trashy df'd ones.

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Finally, Jesus got it!

by DagothUr in

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friends

this is a statement from the article 8/1/1996 questions from readers "since jesus has now been empowered as the one to conquer in gods name, it seems reasonable that his father has told him when the end will come, when he will complete his conquest.. oh, joy, oh, joy!

so the boy finally found out the date of the big a. it certainly seems reasonable!

even jesus gets new light from time to time....

DanaBug

That's a little nugget that might be useful.